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i have to agree wit some of that but wally is made to be a littel less powerful then the other flashes now if barry allen were to take his place then barrey easy hes faster then speed of light all the other falshes and superman only got up to speed of light thats how he died he ran so fast not even the speed force could protect him

Not that Barry has anything to do with this but Wally can go as fast as he wants without pulled into the speedforce. Jay is the one with problems even getting up to lightspeed as seen in Infinite Crisis #4 when his body was giving out due to old age.

Wally is more powerful than any Flash.


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well that is a good point i was just pointen out that berry realy was the fastest man alive


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Fair enough. It comes down to whether or not Alan can beat Kyle before he gets overwhelmed. And I forgot about hte telepathy edge. The JSA has a fair amount of people who are resistant to telepathy (Marvel, Alan, etc.) but no one who can completely counter it. That's probably the decider here. So I've changed my mind.


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The JSA:
Hawkman
Cap.Marvel
G.L Alen Scott
Stargirl
Power Girl
Flash
Hawkgirl

vs

The JLA:
Batman
Superman
G.L Kyle
Wonder Woman
Manhunter
Flash
Aquaman

No prep. Who wins ?


GL Kyle could actually give GL Alan a run for his money. Kyle is considered the most creative GL ever, so he could probably think of something. While I think Alan is more of a blend of Hal and Kyle, I think he would be given a good fight considering he's a GL here, and not in Sentinel form. Manhunter and Aquaman could easily shut the minds off of Stargirl, Hawkgirl, and Hawkman. From there, Cap Marvel and Superman fights always are good ones, I think Wonder Woman could assist Superman there to overwhelm Shazam. And Wally trumps Garrick ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Jay is seriously WAY slower than Wally, he would lose badly. Without Dr. Fate or Alan Scott in his Sentinel form, I don't see how the JSA could pull this one off.


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well that is a good point i was just pointen out that berry realy was the fastest man alive


Dude, no. no Wally is MUCH faster than Barry ever was. Wally had to hold himself back so he couldn't go any faster than Barry. Once he got over his fear of being a better Flash than his uncle, he was going ten times as fast as Barry. wink


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if starboy and dr fate were on jsa for this line up jsa no prob


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Dude, no. no Wally is MUCH faster than Barry ever was. Wally had to hold himself back so he couldn't go any faster than Barry. Once he got over his fear of being a better Flash than his uncle, he was going ten times as fast as Barry. wink


no ur wrong cause the speed force does protect them both wally does not need the speed force to protcte him because hes not going as fast and if he ever went faster then barry at his fastest then he would exploade into pure energy


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just mixen it up a littel hes from the legion


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no ur wrong cause the speed force does protect them both wally does not need the speed force to protcte him because hes not going as fast and if he ever went faster then barry at his fastest then he would exploade into pure energy

Actually you're wrong. Wally can go as fast as he wants without being pulled into the Speedforce because he has an anchor to this world (his wife).

Post Crisis canon says Wally is faster than anyone before him, including Barry.


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no ur wrong cause the speed force does protect them both wally does not need the speed force to protcte him because hes not going as fast and if he ever went faster then barry at his fastest then he would exploade into pure energy


No, when he goes his fastest, Wally litterally goes beyond the realm of speed itself. He actually taps into the speed force, a sort of extra dimensional warp. Trust me dude, Wally is MUCH faster than Barry. wink


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so ur sayin the speed force witch protects the flash's not only gives them speed but protects them from burring out at these trimendes speeds does not need to protect him cause he has his wife


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Wally's faster than Barry. Give it up.


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so ur sayin the speed force witch protects the flash's not only gives them speed but protects them from burring out at these trimendes speeds does not need to protect him cause he has his wife

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What I'm saying is Wally can reach any speed without being pulled into the Speed Force. I'm also saying he's faster than everyone else.


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Wally's faster than Barry. Give it up.

no im askin a valdid question (if wally could go faster then speed off light he couldent see cause hed be going faster then light its self) so is that a yes or no


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no im askin a valdid question (if wally could go faster then speed off light he couldent see cause hed be going faster then light its self) so is that a yes or no

The Speed Force allows him to see. The Speed Force explains away all the science involved with Flash's power. It's basically magic.


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no im askin a valdid question (if wally could go faster then speed off light he couldent see cause hed be going faster then light its self) so is that a yes or no


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thats logical but their sayin hes not usin the speed force


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thats logical but their sayin hes not usin the speed force

That's not what anyone said at all.


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