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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sea King
i may hate him but i dont underate him.
people that say he has the strongest will power in the universe are overateing him people that say he can beat hal jordan or kyle are possabily over rateing him and people who say he can beat alan are most deffently overating him.
so no i dont under rate him i just hate him(and its because of the overrateing)
In fairness though, i don't think people should underestimate supes' willpower simply because he doesnt have a ring... Hal recently offered him a ring (Up, up and Away part 3), so his willpower is at the very least comparable... Thats not to say he'd whupp any gl he met though either...
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:33 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by newjak86
Any GL should beat Supes if for nothing more than they can produce K-Nite radiation to take him down or should be able to.
The only reason I say Silver Surfer is peoplle hear the name and the title of herald and then all of sudden he is beating down the entire JLA with some people.
When in fact he has shown to be quite beatable by different people in different power levels.
Dude, Superman has been thrown in as a team buster on many threads also. So has flash. How many times has slade tagged the guy. The same logic applies.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sea King
their you go with side kick again ah im wearing that joke out so its over now.
anyways it is the writers fault a littel bit i mean
for instence the writer that believes sups is the strongest char.
but aside from that your right i shouldent judge a char on the fans but its just really makes me when people start to spout off about sups could do this or he could do that. it really imo down grades the chars rep and makes them seem like crap.
Strongest character ever? No. Strongest character on DC earth? Yes, more than likely. It's flawed logic to deny Superman some of his top strength feats. Sometimes Superman fans can go a little overboard sometimes, but it's not like what the Wolverine fans used to say.
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:35 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by pr1983
In fairness though, i don't think people should underestimate supes' willpower simply because he doesnt have a ring... Hal recently offered him a ring (Up, up and Away part 3), so his willpower is at the very least comparable... Thats not to say he'd whupp any gl he met though either...
Yeah but it's hard to look at lines like "Highest willpower in the universe" as anything BUT cockstroking. I've seen that crap brought up Superman/GL debates.
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:36 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Broly92
Did someone say Superman Hate
Yah! Nobody :Cough Avalonofthewind Cough:
Um, no. Avalon is a Superman FAN, not fanboy. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to Superman.
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:37 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Validus
Yeah but it's hard to look at lines like "Highest willpower in the universe" as anything BUT cockstroking. I've seen that crap brought up Superman/GL debates.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
Um, no. Avalon is a Superman FAN, not fanboy. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to Superman.
I would have agreed if not for the Thanos vs. Superman thread where he looked like a fanboy and whenever I say Supes loses insults me
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:40 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
Strongest character ever? No. Strongest character on DC earth. Yes, more than likely. It's flawed logic to deny Superman some of his top strength feats. Sometimes Superman can go a little overboard sometimes, but it's not like what the Wolverine fans used to say.
yes he should be allowed all his strongest feats but people should reconize more then that. for instence when he gets beat.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Big Sexy
Dude, Superman has been thrown in as a team buster on many threads also. So has flash. How many times has slade tagged the guy. The same logic applies.
Yeah buit has Superman been thrown in to beat down the entire JLA before or Flash. Thats the point Silver Surfer is tough but he isn't busting up the likes of the JLA.
And a lot of that stuff actually goes on when people hear the name. Basically he should just turn everybody into a cheeseburger and call it a day.
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:42 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sea King
yes he should be allowed all his strongest feats but people should reconize more then that. for instence when he gets beat.
Of course he gets beat... its just not too often as not to hurt DC's bottom line...
thats not to say what victories he does have are any less deserved...
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah buit has Superman been thrown in to beat down the entire JLA before or Flash. Thats the point Silver Surfer is tough but he isn't busting up the likes of the JLA.
And a lot of that stuff actually goes on when people hear the name. Basically he should just turn everybody into a cheeseburger and call it a day.
He should carry Blob on his surferboard. Thats the perfect waste disposal fro his enemies.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sea King
yes he should be allowed all his strongest feats but people should reconize more then that. for instence when he gets beat.
Superman gets beat but the thing is, he usually ends up whooping the same guy's ass sooner or later. I definitely know where you're coming from though. His low showings are pretty much totally ignored.
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:45 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah buit has Superman been thrown in to beat down the entire JLA before or Flash. Thats the point Silver Surfer is tough but he isn't busting up the likes of the JLA.
And a lot of that stuff actually goes on when people hear the name. Basically he should just turn everybody into a cheeseburger and call it a day.
That is one thing that always bugged me, Has he transmutted people before? The guy turns steel to air.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Big Sexy
He should carry Blob on his surferboard. Thats the perfect waste disposal fro his enemies.
Its true though thats what everyone thinks he should do in most of his fights.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by pr1983
Of course he gets beat... its just not too often as not to hurt DC's bottom line...
thats not to say what victories he does have are any less deserved...
Except in the end who is it who saves the world against a guy who beats the rest of the heroes who most are close to his level or even with him
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:46 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sea King
thats one of my biggest points he does not get beat veary often.
But honestly, should he? How often does he fight people that are more powerful than him? Or Thor, the Hulk, Surfer, Hal, Sentry? Isn't it all relative?
i saw John Stewart take him down during GL: Rebirth with one blast...
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Broly92
I would have agreed if not for the Thanos vs. Superman thread where he looked like a fanboy and whenever I say Supes loses insults me
No, that was in the Superman vs. Thanos in a hand to hand fight thread. He's said how he thinks that with all their powers Thanos would win. Yet, people seem to ignore that.
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Jul 22nd, 2006 03:46 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Big Sexy
That is one thing that always bugged me, Has he transmutted people before? The guy turns steel to air.
You know he could possibly but it is same thing when people say that Flash should just steal everyone's speed and then Vibrate through them all in the first Picosecond of the match.
They could possibly do but they never really have.
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