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jinzin
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I don't see Wolverine beating Black Panther, so I certainly don't see Sabretooth beating Black Panther.

Ever.
considering wolverine's almost killed him?


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Funny because you seem to be in the minority in regards to who you think would win.
a long time ago the majority of the people thought the world was flat.. it must have been flat...



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What's that old adage about crazy people always thinking that they're the sane ones and that the people on the outside should be locked up instead?


tell me what about black panther makes him more formidable than wendigo, killpower, rogue, and mrs. marvel.... all characters who were victimized by sabretooth


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Unarmed, in a straight fight, an enraged Sabertooth would eventually get lucky and eviscerate Black Panther. Panther couldn't bring him down for good, resulting in his failure.


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considering wolverine's almost killed him?


When? Where? Show me a scan or give me an issue number.

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tell me what about black panther makes him more formidable than wendigo, killpower, rogue, and mrs. marvel.... all characters who were victimized by sabretooth


I don't have to tell you. I can show you. Obviously you didn't see the scans that I provided in my earlier post.

You say that BP can't beat Sabretooth when I provided scans that proved otherwise.

On the other hand, you've done absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up your own claims other than to tell me that I'm "wrong".

OK, I guess I'll take your word for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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When? Where? Show me a scan or give me an issue number.



I don't have to tell you. I can show you. Obviously you didn't see the scans that I provided in my earlier post.

You say that BP can't beat Sabretooth when I provided scans that proved otherwise.

On the other hand, you've done absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up your own claims other than to tell me that I'm "wrong".

OK, I guess I'll take your word for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Thats not sabertooth. Thats BEBOP ( from the Ninja turtles). Sabertooths power flucuates a lot.


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HoM stuff IIRC.

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When? Where? Show me a scan or give me an issue number.



I don't have to tell you. I can show you. Obviously you didn't see the scans that I provided in my earlier post.

You say that BP can't beat Sabretooth when I provided scans that proved otherwise.

On the other hand, you've done absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up your own claims other than to tell me that I'm "wrong".

OK, I guess I'll take your word for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)
I seemed to recall seeing weapons in that fight.

But wait a minute. There aren't any weapons in this fight are there?

Huh.

I guess that means Sabertooth wins.


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BP doesn't need weapons. He just kicks Sabretooth's ass.

BP for the win.


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I seemed to recall seeing weapons in that fight.

But wait a minute. There aren't any weapons in this fight are there?

Huh.

I guess that means Sabertooth wins.
sabrtooth also didn't appear to have a decent healing factor or an amdantium skeleton there... guess that's why house of m DOESN"T COUNT....

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BP doesn't need weapons. He just kicks Sabretooth's ass.

BP for the win.


black panther is not going to succeed where killpower, mrs, marvel, sasquatch, wendigo, omega red, spiderman and sinisters supermen all failed to...


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sabrtooth also didn't appear to have a decent healing factor or an amdantium skeleton there... guess that's why house of m DOESN"T COUNT....



black panther is not going to succeed where killpower, mrs, marvel, sasquatch, wendigo, omega red, spiderman and sinisters supermen all failed to...


Don't pull out that sasquatch fight. That was PIS through and through. Wooden stakes going through the hid of a character that's hide (up till that point) was impervious to armour piercing machine gun fire. That hardly goes down as a win for Sabertooth.


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When? Where? Show me a scan or give me an issue number.



I don't have to tell you. I can show you. Obviously you didn't see the scans that I provided in my earlier post.

You say that BP can't beat Sabretooth when I provided scans that proved otherwise.

On the other hand, you've done absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up your own claims other than to tell me that I'm "wrong".

OK, I guess I'll take your word for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)


616 Sabretooth has had close to half a dozen upgrades since his creation. Did HoM Sabretooth? Judging from is fight with Black Panther the answer is a clear no. Sabretooth has gotten into melee slug feasts with the likes of Warbird, Rogue, Killpower and Deathshead and either won or stalemated them (getting ko's with his brute strength). The established back grounds of all the characters were changed and none of them had the same experience (and upgrades) their 616 counter parts had. For example Wolverine lost to Fury in hand to hand, where as his 616 counter part beat the tar out of Nick... and he was holding back... and Nick Fury had prep time and brought weapons designed to take down the likes of the Hulk....


The only possible way Black Panther wins even 1/10 is if Sabretooth plays the odds, bets on Black Panther to win, takes a fall then cashs in on the 1/10000 odds.


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Don't pull out that sasquatch fight. That was PIS through and through. Wooden stakes going through the hid of a character that's hide (up till that point) was impervious to armour piercing machine gun fire. That hardly goes down as a win for Sabertooth.
i'm not counting it as a win.. I'm asking what makes BP more formidible in h2h when sasquatch punches did nothing but make sabretooth smile.


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When? Where? Show me a scan or give me an issue number.



I don't have to tell you. I can show you. Obviously you didn't see the scans that I provided in my earlier post.

You say that BP can't beat Sabretooth when I provided scans that proved otherwise.

On the other hand, you've done absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up your own claims other than to tell me that I'm "wrong".

OK, I guess I'll take your word for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)

contest of champs I

and I saw your scans however they mean poop to me since:

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616 Sabretooth has had close to half a dozen upgrades since his creation. Did HoM Sabretooth? Judging from is fight with Black Panther the answer is a clear no. Sabretooth has gotten into melee slug feasts with the likes of Warbird, Rogue, Killpower and Deathshead and either won or stalemated them (getting ko's with his brute strength). The established back grounds of all the characters were changed and none of them had the same experience (and upgrades) their 616 counter parts had. For example Wolverine lost to Fury in hand to hand, where as his 616 counter part beat the tar out of Nick... and he was holding back... and Nick Fury had prep time and brought weapons designed to take down the likes of the Hulk....


The only possible way Black Panther wins even 1/10 is if Sabretooth plays the odds, bets on Black Panther to win, takes a fall then cashs in on the 1/10000 odds.


what he said.. no expression


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Wouldn't Panther's anti-metal claws just... completely f**k up Sabretooth?... I mean, if parts of his skeletal structure just start disintegrating that would probably put him down for quite a while


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his bones aren't replaced in the admantium bonding process.. they're just covered up... so it probably wouldn't do much considering.


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As far as I'm aware, Sabretooth got a similar treatment to wolverine... and when his Adamantium disappeared his healing factor was so maxed out that he almost died... and he needed weeks to recover .... and after he was up and around his healing factor was at the lowest it has ever been


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Wouldn't Panther's anti-metal claws just... completely f**k up Sabretooth?... I mean, if parts of his skeletal structure just start disintegrating that would probably put him down for quite a while


His anti-metal claws aren't part of his standard equipment are they? Anyway assuming they are their are things to keep in mind. The first being that Sabretooth and Wolverine's adamantium bonding process isn't just the coating of bones of adamantium and bone but rather the fusing of adamantium and bone on the molecular level creating Adamantium Beta which is at least in part organic. Being partially organic in nature who can say what effect Antartic Vibranium would have on it. And even then when Pym used it on Ultron the adamantium wasn't liquified like other metals but rather weakened to the point to where they were able to bash the hell out of him... is that something Panther could do? And then they their is the fact that Victor's skeleton is covered with muscle far denser and more durable then a normal human and that the vibrations (if they had any effect at all) would need to come in contact with his bones first.


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i'm not counting it as a win.. I'm asking what makes BP more formidible in h2h when sasquatch punches did nothing but make sabretooth smile.


Once again, PIS. Sasquatches punches can stagger the hulk and knock Thing on his arse, but they just make Sabretooth smile?

That's just ridiculous.


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His anti-metal claws aren't part of his standard equipment are they? Anyway assuming they are their are things to keep in mind. The first being that Sabretooth and Wolverine's adamantium bonding process isn't just the coating of bones of adamantium and bone but rather the fusing of adamantium and bone on the molecular level creating Adamantium Beta which is at least in part organic. Being partially organic in nature who can say what effect Antartic Vibranium would have on it. And even then when Pym used it on Ultron the adamantium wasn't liquified like other metals but rather weakened to the point to where they were able to bash the hell out of him... is that something Panther could do? And then they their is the fact that Victor's skeleton is covered with muscle far denser and more durable then a normal human and that the vibrations (if they had any effect at all) would need to come in contact with his bones first.


I think the claws are standard equipment

The adamantium may be bonded to bone but the metal itself is still completely inorganic... the effects of Anti-metal can't be seen working at a distance though... shouldn't need to actually touch anything (I think)

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As for Giant Man punching Ultron during the process... I'm reasonably sure that that act was completely irrelevant to the metal dissolving/breaking apart... it just made him feel better


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Once again, PIS. Sasquatches punches can stagger the hulk and knock Thing on his arse, but they just make Sabretooth smile?

That's just ridiculous.
why? wolverine takes a redwood shot from hulk and gets back up.. sabretooth is a superhuman version of wolverine.. he should take the shots like how he took them. no expression


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