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Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Remember how Spidey ALWAYS pulls his punches? Yeah, if he doesn't pull them DD's taking a dirt nap real quick.


But, it's already been said that it's non-bloodlusted.

And, in the past, DD's been shown to be able to roll with any 'pulled punches' from Spidey.

DD has been shown to be able to hang with Spidey. In one match, he even managed to tie him up, before leaving him there to break the extremley strong wire. Granted, that was a Spidey from a while ago. But, that being said, DD was trying to end a fight where Spidey thought he was a bad guy.

And, ontop of those points, consider this:

With each new life, DD has renewed strength, energy, endurance, etc. Spidey has to keep on battling. Yes, I know his endurance level is extremley high. But, still. It is 9 lives.

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Originally posted by fsufan89
Spidey takes it at least to 7. honestly guys spiderman has been up against guys that blow DD out of the water.


Thats not such a great way to think about this fight. B > C and A > B, then A > C logic doesnt always apply. Spidey may have beat people that blow DD out of the water, but not many of them possess the same powers/skill set that DD has.

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Daredevils not close in agility,


Hes close enough to the point where he can dodge and evade webbing long enough.

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speed,


Hes fast enough to where Spidey can barely land hits on him.

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and especially not stregnth,


Thats a given, but it gets nulled for the simple fact that Spiidey couldnt never land a hard enough hit on DD to do sufficient damage.

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his radar sense is countered by spideys spidey sense.


Not 100% true. Spideys spidey sense gets countered by DD's radar and other senses.


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Originally posted by Scoobless
The mind controlled fight they had in that Black Cat storyline you mean? ... I'd say it doesn't count as neither of them was fighting in their usual style.


Oh, im actually not sure what one you are reffering to? but i was actually reffering to the civil war 4 brawl and "Daredevil" hit spidey, err, atleast i think thast what i was talking about, but thats not entirely the best skirmish to bring up, so slightly irrelevant



and to someone else who said Spidersense would counter DD's radar sense? not so, Spidersense is more reactive, whereas Radar sense is more proactive. It wouldent neccessairily counter it any differently than it would anyone who is fighting him, on the otehr hand, radar sense would (and does) allow him to sense which direction spiderman is moving it. So short of it being too quick, daredevil can "feel" where spiderman is going and act accordingly (if its not out of his reach), which is in some ways an advantage that he has that no one else fighting spiderman really does

p.s happy thanksgiving everyone big grin

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To answer this question...

Honestly, I think Spider-Man has the ability to defeat Daredevil nine times, but I don't think he has the mentality to do so. To assuming Daredevil gets nine tries to kill Spider-Man assumes that Spider-Man is going to kill Daredevil even once. There is nothing about a non-bloodlusted Spider-Man that remotely even suggests that murder is okay with him.

But let's throw out that factor. For the sake of this debate.

While Daredevil is a supurb fighter (ninjitsu, judo, and American-style boxing) and posseses an Olympic-level expertise of gymnastics. The reality is, is that it still pales in comparison to Spider-Man. Not only that, but Daredevil can't jump as high as Spider-Man, has no where near the strength that Spider-Man possesses (Spider-Man, under optimal conditions can lift about 10 tons. Daredevil can't even achieve 1000 pounds), and his sight is sonar-based which means if thre is no sound to be heard, to if it's just too loud, he won't be able to see.

Spider-Man's spider-sense is a basic sense of precognition against dangers and harm, and it gives him a few hundreths of a second to anticipate his enemies movements and then he is able to act accordingly. He even gave the Mighty Thor some slight annoyances before the Asgardian got pissed off and Mjolnir did what it does best. Even Thor acknowledged that Spider-Man had done incredibly well for a being of his power.

I think Spider-Man is very capable of defeating Daredevil nine times. I just don't think he is able to based on the first paragraph of this comment.

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one daredevil is a challenge to him. no way he can defeat 9

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Even if Spider-Man's not bloodlusted he's not gonna continue to hold back when he realizes that DD's just gonna come back to live. He'll proceed to one shot him until he accidental kills him


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Re: To answer this question...

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While Daredevil is a supurb fighter (ninjitsu, judo, and American-style boxing) and posseses an Olympic-level expertise of gymnastics. The reality is, is that it still pales in comparison to Spider-Man.


Thats the obvious. Whats your point? It wouldnt hinder him much in a fight with Spidey, unless they are in the olympics together.

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Not only that, but Daredevil can't jump as high as Spider-Man,


Its not a jumping contest, so Spidey being able to jump higher doesnt help much

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has no where near the strength that Spider-Man possesses (Spider-Man, under optimal conditions can lift about 10 tons. Daredevil can't even achieve 1000 pounds),


Read my last post. DD's strength means very little in this fight.

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and his sight is sonar-based which means if thre is no sound to be heard, to if it's just too loud, he won't be able to see.


To Daredevil, there will always be sound. If Spidey moves, theres sound. If his heart beats, theres sound. If a muscle tenses, theres sound. For DD's radar not to work due to too much sound, it would hav eto be an extreme amount of it. I dont think Spidey is producing that here.

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Spider-Man's spider-sense is a basic sense of precognition against dangers and harm, and it gives him a few hundreths of a second to anticipate his enemies movements and then he is able to act accordingly. He even gave the Mighty Thor some slight annoyances before the Asgardian got pissed off and Mjolnir did what it does best. Even Thor acknowledged that Spider-Man had done incredibly well for a being of his power.


Same can be said about Daredevil.


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