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Originally posted by Burning thought
what proof do you have that Thralls hammer couldnt smash through Link and his shield in one strike, Ganon isnt like Mannoroth, without the crappy "Ganon cannot be defeated by anything other than light arrows" or other such nonsense Mannaroth could probably cleave through both Link and Ganon at the same time

all he has to do is chase down link and crush him...done...unless link uses one of his invulnerability masks or the giant one then Thrall loses, Hellscream would probably be better matchup..or Uther lightbringer or whatever his name is...



WTH has Ganon's "crappy" durability with the power of his strikes to do? Could people please stop whining because they got owned in that thread! Thank you.


Now you better prove how it is gonna break through, cause Link's shields has pretty much withstanded things on that level, I don't see what is so special about Thrall's hammer more than a hard toss....


If this is Link in any Zelda, not everyone at once, but like OOT or MM, he wins easily. If this is in the normal Zelda I lack much knowledge about him. Most Link's would probably beat him down.
So this is what I need, info about which Link it is.


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Everyone seems to think that the all-might shield is a save-all can't-hurt-me kind of thing. A shield can be broken, or if you guys are all Mirror Shield this and Mirror shield that... It's theoretically possible that it can be disarmed. A lot of people don't think so because they don't realize that heroes and enmies alike are dynamic characters who if it were reality could adapt to the situations of thier opponents.

I seriously don't think that Thrall who is by many respects a revered and war-tested warrior would not be so inpt as to find away around a defense. It may take some time, but I think Thrall isn't above elf-handling Link and then defeating him. Just as I'm sure Link isn't above cramming a bomb or something in Thrall's mouth if he could.

It may not be likely, but it isn't impossible. I'm sure with Thrall's superior strength it is likely he could knock Link's shield arm away even for a moment or two, or knock him off balance by cracking the ground underneath Link for an advantage. Thrall is smart enough to use whatever advantage he could use.

Thrall I think just has the upper-hand in most cases, and I don't even like him 1/10th as much as I do Link.

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I'm not saying his shield is unbreakable, however, seeing as he has withstood countless of things that are seemingly on par with the toss that Thrall did against Mannaroth, it is not enough for me to belive that one of those strikes would harm Link in any way.

Link can shoot swords out of his own sword, all he needs to do is let out a single strike which will send a sword flying straight at Thrall, and even if Thrall might be able to dodge that in a way, he will have to do it 24/7, since all Link needs to do is to keep striking and swords will fly all the time.
And this is just if it is the first Zelda Link, if it is the others, I don't see how Thrall stands a CHANCE!


Ok, I'm gonna do one of those comparisons as well...


Strenght: Ok, Thrall has shown what in strenght? He's an orc, which are naturally strong, that's about it. Link has power braclets which allows him to carry heavy weights. I could see it as a stalemate. And this is only if this is just once again the Link form the first Zelda game. But this contest isn't gonna rely much on strenght anyway....


Durability: What has Thrall shown here really? Link, although gameplay, increases his hearts every time, so although I'm not gonna use hearts as an argument, I'm gonna say that his durability continousley increases throughout the game, and he has shown himself very durable, actually, he has to be considering all the things he's been through. I could see Link take this.


Intelligence. Hmm, seeing as Thrall is a far seer, who specialises in intelligence categorys, I see him win this. Link is no dumbass though, getting through all the traps in the tempels, but that's not nearly enough.


Agility. Link, after all, Thrall rides around on a wolf, cannot move around much, and if he dismounts, I still don't see him getting near Link in this category.



To me, Link wins in most if not all the physical aspects. His arsenal is above Thrall's by far, he has a shield for protection, his sword can be used as a range weapon since he can fire other swords out of it or he can use a bow. Thrall has nothing for protection, and in a melee fight, his hammer can only be used offensivley, it cannot be used like a sword, it's sorley purpose is to kill. Link is to versetile for Thrall to handle.
And once again, this is only if it is the first Zelda Link. Please specifi....


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I'm starting to agree that the author of this thread (like many authors) neds to be a little more specific when we talk about Link, since there there are multiple incarnations of Link.

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Yup. ^


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It could be possible he actually meant Link from Encino Man, but then I think the thread would be closed because no one in their right mind likes Brendan Fraiser.

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You're okay man, questions. First, how do I buddy you? (Since I am admittedly a newb. <Not to be confused with n00b, ja n00bs who read this and make a reply without proper grammar, no sense of punctuation, and/or an extremely loose grip on the concept of spelling> )

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Second, you go into the same, and then profile I think, then you click on the "customise sig" or something like that, you add a picture (though you'll probably have to fix the size and all that), and then you copy the text that comes when you've added it, and add it in the sig profile. Lol! Kinda hard to get. ^


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Durability: What has Thrall shown here really? Link, although gameplay, increases his hearts every time, so although I'm not gonna use hearts as an argument, I'm gonna say that his durability continousley increases throughout the game, and he has shown himself very durable, actually, he has to be considering all the things he's been through. I could see Link take this.





i doubt Link wins this, what do you mean Thrall hasnt shown much....he survived Mannaroths enormous Demon blade and being sent half a mile into a cliff side, not to mention when Mannaroth dies he lets forth an explosion of hellish fire that would burn link to a crisp, wheras Thrall survives, and hellscreams body doesnt get burnt


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You guys are aware that even if his sheild doesn't break. The impact that thrall hits him with would send him flying a few meters back?


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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You guys are aware that even if his sheild doesn't break. The impact that thrall hits him with would send him flying a few meters back?


exactley, i dont think the little guy would stand a chance really, every hit would send him flying, the Doomhammer is not an ordinairy hammer, through all what Thralls been through i doubt hell be defeaten by Link


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exactley, i dont think the little guy would stand a chance really, every hit would send him flying, the Doomhammer is not an ordinairy hammer, through all what Thralls been through i doubt hell be defeaten by Link


I disagree, links versatility makes him deadly. If pure brute strength was enough, he would have lost a long time ago. I dunno what thrall can do, But, link has alot of options like: moves that can stun thrall while he chips away at his life. If thrall swings the hammer, link can get out of the way or sheild him self with nayru's love, or attack, lond distance with proojectiles that can burn,stun, and freeze thrall.


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Thrall can cause Earthquakes, call lightning that can fry link, Summon a pair of giant wolves that are even bigger than thrall himself, and Thrall is enormous really, Link isnt very large, especially in build, he would find it difficult to didge Thralls hammer considering its quite enormous and the fact Thrall isnt slow...although he doesnt jump and roll and such like link probably does, he can run quite fast, or he has his Wolf mount to chase link down on


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Thrall can cause Earthquakes, call lightning that can fry link, Summon a pair of giant wolves that are even bigger than thrall himself, and Thrall is enormous really, Link isnt very large, especially in build, he would find it difficult to didge Thralls hammer considering its quite enormous and the fact Thrall isnt slow...although he doesnt jump and roll and such like link probably does, he can run quite fast, or he has his Wolf mount to chase link down on


LOL, what's stopping linking from killing the wolves and sheilding himself with nayru's love against lighting. Also, link can hit thrall from virtually every range and stun him. An argument concerning size doesn't mean much against a guy who takes down gaints, and one hammer vs Bow & arrows ,Sword & sheild, Hookshoot, bombs and bombchu's (That can target thrall), Arrows that can freexe and burn him, Teleportation,a force feild that's invulnerable,etc. Doesn't mean much to me, and earthquakes what would tht do, lol.


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Link from Encino Man can't do any of that crap! LOL

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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
LOL, what's stopping linking from killing the wolves and sheilding himself with nayru's love against lighting. Also, link can hit thrall from virtually every range and stun him. An argument concerning size doesn't mean much against a guy who takes down gaints, and one hammer vs Bow & arrows ,Sword & sheild, Hookshoot, bombs and bombchu's (That can target thrall), Arrows that can freexe and burn him, Teleportation,a force feild that's invulnerable,etc. Doesn't mean much to me, and earthquakes what would tht do, lol.


the Earthquake would split the ground and swallow link :P hell just start setting up all his little devices and then BOOM!!!, the ground opens and he falls miles under into a lava pool....owned

and his Wolves are normal, their spirit wolves, almost invulnerable since their like ghosts, hence spirit.....the only way Link can win is if he starts off from a long range and shoots thrall OR he uses one of his invulnerability cheapneses......i think Thrall should be allowed some pots for this fight, and engineering devices of his own, but then their not actually given to him in-game


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the Earthquake would split the ground and swallow link :P hell just start setting up all his little devices and then BOOM!!!, the ground opens and he falls miles under into a lava pool....owned



I don't see why link can move away as the cracks emerge, and hoverboots can keep him from falling smile

EDIT: Or he can teleport with farue's wind, or use the hookshot to get back up.

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and his Wolves are normal, their spirit wolves, almost invulnerable since their like ghosts, hence spirit.....

Link kills ghost all the time, especially with the master sword.

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the only way Link can win is if he starts off from a long range and shoots thrall OR he uses one of his invulnerability cheapneses......i think Thrall should be allowed some pots for this fight, and engineering devices of his own, but then their not actually given to him in-game


If there not given to him in game, than it's out of the question.


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hell fall down there when a Hammer comes and smashes him in the head, then hes knocked out and falls into the abyss.....or gets electrocuted, i doubt that wand of teleportation has infinate charges so hell prob use it a few times as all the ground around him falls away and sunders and erupts then it runs out and he falls

or hell be hit by a thunder bolt as hes trying to escape or jumped by ghostly wolves that Thrall will keep summoning

or if were taking some sense into it, Thral would also have the abilities of lesser shamans, which include powers which will take away Links buffs and slowing him to a crawl to be at the Mercy of thralls hammer OR he could call lighting shields around him that will fry link if he gets too close


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