Lol sure kiddo. Thats always your excuse for when you get owned, "I couldn't be bothered." LOL
Whips out PoD
"He waited till the last possible second before unleashing the energy bottled up inside him in a tremendous rush of power. He channled it through his muscels and limbs, moving so fast it seemed as if time had stopped to the rest of the world....The fury and focus that had turned him into a conduit of the dark side's unstoppable power was gone, replaced by hyperconcious awarness of his physical surrondings." - PoD pg 171
"When the Zabraks desperation turned to hopelessness, every impulse in Bane screamed with the desire to take the initiative and end the fight. Instead he let the tantalizing closeness of Siraks defeat feed his appetite for vengeance.The hunger grew with each passing second until it became physical pain tearing away at his insides: The dark side filled him and he felt it on the verge of ripping him apart, splitting his skin and gushing out like a fountain of black blood"
OK, look here Mr Nintendo, if anyone's ignorant here, it's you, seeing as you haven't even read PoD, and you're basing everything off of what you've seen in this thread. Now know this, AC is wrong, I'm right, and as soon as I get to my laptop which has PoD in EBook form (it's easier to copy and paste that way, can't be bothered to directly type out some fat passage from my book), I'll prove him wrong.
"In the end his Patience was rewarded. Sirak became more and more frustrated as he continually tried and failed to bring his bumbling, stumbling opponent down. As the prolonged physical exertion took its toll, his swings became wild and reckless, until he abandoned all pretense of defense in an effort to end the duel he sensed was slipping away from him."
No, its a waste of my time, the only relevant points are at the end what I posted, sure he could have beat Sirak at anytime but he wouldn't have had the explosion of speed. Thats the point.
1. Bane didn't pull anything out of orbit planet. You're the only one who thinks he's proven it but denial is hilarious.
2. The holocron in Nadd's tomb was the holocron he got his rule of two idea, and since BOTS was retconned by POD, then he didn't get any holocron from Nadd's tomb, instead getting the holocron on Rakata Prime.
1. It's funny how AC and other members who originally didn't believe it accepted it in the thread in my sig.
2. The only thing in BotS that was retconned was that he came up with the rule from the holocron he found in Freedon's tomb, the fact that he did get the holocron was never retconned.
Given how people are having multiple orgasms over how Yoda "moved a mountain" I would say a lot. Given that the beast moon probably encompassed several thousand mountains, I would state that puts his TK at a whooping high.
I am under the impression that they don't. I haven't read or heard anything that states otherwise.
He was having fun toying with Sirak, when he decided to release his true power, he wtfdestroyed him. The passages in PoD are basically the author trying to make Bane's speed interesting.
He is not going to say, Bane moved faster than the eyes could see and tooled Sirak.
He was using imagery and whatnot to describe how Bane was enjoying crushing Sirak, and when he tried he unleashed the darkside and moved faster than the eyes could see.
SW bastardizes many a known law in physics, biology, and chemistry. The force, wtf? The darkside was probably sustaining his "cardiac stability," so to speak, such that the extra adrenaline was only adding beneficial effects.
Kaan mentions, "the pain is a small price to pay. You will soon understand the benefit of these symbiotes"
If an orbalisk attached to me or you, the extra adrenaline would probably fvck us over as we would most likely die from a heart attack from all the exra adrenaline. On a sith lord, especially of Bane's calibur, the darkside would sustain his heart and other functions such that only the benefits of the adrenaline are realized.
Sion on one hand was able to maintain his body, despite everything already being fvcked up. He learned the same secrets as Revan did from Malachor 5. Bane learned everything from Revan. He probably found a way to maintain his heart despite all the extra adrenaline
The darkside allowed him to reach a state such that the epinephrine doesn't **** over his heart. The orbalisks were never stated to have the risk of giving heart attacks. Why, because Bane had enough dark power to counter the mal-effects, meaning they can't destroy him.
Have you proven he is better than Bane, because I do not see it.
Bane learned from Nadd's holocron aswell as Revan's. Simply teaching does not mean you are stronger. Plagueis taught Sidious, does that mean Sid's was weaker? Bane's TK, his sheer display of force power, was always a little over Revan.
With all that said, the battle would be close as hell.
How the hell do you know what I have and have not read? Wtf?
Secondly I was referring to not only this thread, but pretty much everything you post. You are in complete denial of anything that disputes your lover Darth Bane being "teh m0st ub3r eva!1 LOLz ZOMg!!11 pWn3d n00b!!11" and its irritating. You just hear what you want to hear and ignore anything that doesn't fit within your skewed ridiculous views. You then assert that "you've beaten and or proven someone or something wrong" when all you've done is state something utterly retarded and ignored everyone else, who BTW usually prove you wrong almost every time. Your "theories" are vague and usually completely bias, your debating skills are sub-par at best, you create threads to attempt to discredit anyone or anything you don't like or don't agree with, and your quite possibly one of the most ignorant and annoying people to grace these boards in the 3+ years that I've been here.
__________________
BRAWL FRIEND CODE: 3823-8176-3726
Last edited by ((The_Anomaly)) on Dec 31st, 2006 at 01:36 AM
Ok I typed a long ass response but my computer f*cked it up, if I seem angry don't take it to seriously.
Well considering you practically love the character giving him exaggerated feats, I wouldn't think your opinion of his would be swayed easily.
QUANTIFY IT. Yoda IS Stronger then Bane, Transitive Property, it actually works out in this case, simply because he isn't moving moons (why the hell would Yoda or anyone else for that matter need to move a planet?) doesn't mean Bane > All. One unquantified feat does not make him some sort of god, like his fanbois want us to think.
I was asking a question hence the "?"
And? What the hell is your point? He could have beaten Sirak at any time, so what. Had he done so earlier he wouldn't have had the little speed burst, FACT, the author says he started gathering the DS energy at the end of the duel. FACT.
Thats so f*cking stupid its sad, so now: "Oh its teh Ds doin It yall!!" For that utterly ridicules assumption to be true the Dark Side would have to:
A. Calm People, which it doesn'y do, it fuels hatred and rage thus effectively making Banes condition WORSE
B. Control individual functions of the body, while Bane does other tasks at the same time.
Oh yea I guess the narcissistic, coward who's only care in life was keeping his dumb position as "Head" of the Brotherhood, was also quite fond of the Dxun wildlife and also planned to have a zoo there after the whole mess with the Army of Light was done.
See above, illogical, your attributing the Dark Side to things it can't do. If this was the case since the force is limit less, NOBODY should get tired. And yet we see people who are even stronger then Bane, Palpainte, gasping for air after his duel with Yoda (ROTS novel) and dead tired. Why didn't he simply use the Dark Side to slow his body down so he could catch his breath? We have Bane who after his duel with Kas'im collapsed into exhaustion, why didn't he simply use the Dark Side to do as above and get up two seconds latter, why didn't he use the Dark Side to make himself a toaster and some bread so he could eat while on the moon?
Now if Bane who at that point in the novel believed he could move planets gets tired still your assuming that an unsubstantiated power up from some random holocron now gives him some powers Palapatine doesn't even do, it now gives him the powers to use the Dark Side to CALM himself in times of duress? Please.
Sion is an anomaly, we don't know what type of tortures he had to go through to attain his power, and moreover he's being held together by sheer will and hate, these things would make matters for Sea Shells worse, as hate and rage get the blood pumping and the heart racing.
Your assuming Revan did in fact know what Sion could do and could mimic it, which is illogical since Revan isn't a walking scab. Your assuming Revan even taught Bane the power, Your assuming the power is even possible by anyone outside of Sion, Your assuming that Revan taught Bane EVERYTHING, Your assuming Revan even filled the holocron with ALL his knowledge, Your assuming the topic even came up "So Revan teach me how to calm myself using the Dark Side." Your assuming alot.
Ok were gonna go and look at just how dumb the shit your trying to pull out your ass is.
To beat Revan, Bane would have to:
1. Concentrate on all of Revans movements with 100% focus (He himself states that if he hadn't have been focusing 100% on Kas'im's movements he'd be torn to ribbons, and Revan is most certainly a foe that you'd need 100% focus on to not be ass raped.
2. While at the same time he's focusing on Revans movements, he'd have to use the Dark Side to fuel himself
3. While using the Dark Side to fuel himself, he'd need to concentrate on slowing his vital systems that might stop working because of the stupid amounts of Adrenaline being juiced into him in combination with the Dark Side speeding him up
4. While doing all of the above he'd have to "feed" the Sea Shells with Dark Side energy to sustain them on his body and keep the Adrenaline up.
The man is still HUMAN.
Bane either kills himself or Revan shoves his saber through his face mask.
I just did.
No he learned from a holocron in Nadd's tomb and considering Nadds tomb has been raided multiple times I doubt that holocron had anything of real value in it.
When has Sea Shells EVER been described as blinding? When was Sea Shells name synonymous with power? When has anyone been able to actually see the force moving around him when he was at a rest state? Never, in all cases.
Sea Shells kills himself, or Revan kills him either way
Yea sure, I'll just start taking everything you say as a joke. If I did that then I'd be fine with whatever you are saying. Just at the end of every post you make write:
*BA! DING! CHISSH!!!*
Then we'll have have a good laugh and get back to our lives. Cool?
Lord Qordis, exalted Master of the Sith Academy on Korriban, scratched gently at his chin with long, talon-like fingers.
"This student you have brought me-this Bane-has never been trained in the ways of the Force?"
Kopecz shook his head and twitched his lekku ever so slightly in annoyance. "As I told you before, Qordis, he grew up on Apatros, a world controlled by the ORO Company."
"Yet you managed to find this young man and bring him here to the Academy. It seems almost too convenient."
The heavyset Twi'lek snarled. "This is not a plot against you, Qordis. That is no longer our way. We are a Brotherhood now, remember? You are too suspicious."
Qordis laughed. "Not suspicious; cautious. It has helped me to maintain my position here among so many powerful and ambitious young Sith."
"He is as powerful as any of them," Kopecz insisted.
"But he is also older. We prefer to find our students when they are younger and more ... malleable." "Now you sound like a Jedi," Kopecz sneered. "They seek younger and younger pupils, hoping to find them pure and innocent. In time they will refuse any who are not infants. We must be quick to pluck those they leave behind. Besides," he continued, "Bane is too strong to simply pass over, even for the Jedi. We are lucky we found him before they did."
"Yes, lucky," Qordis echoed, his voice dripping with sarcasm. "His arrival here seems to be an incredible turn of many fortuitous events. Quite lucky indeed."
"Some might see it that way," Kopecz admitted. "Others might see it as something more. Destiny, perhaps."
There was silence while Qordis considered his longtime rival's words. "The other acolytes have been training for many years. He will be far behind," he said at last.
"He will catch up, if given the chance," Kopecz insisted.
"And I wonder ... will the others give him that chance? Not if they are smart. I'm afraid we may simply be throwing away one of Lord Kaan's best troopers."
"We both know the Jedi won't be defeated by soldiers," Kopecz snapped. "I'd gladly trade a thousand of our best troopers for even one Sith Master."
Qordis seemed taken aback by his passionate reaction.
"He is that strong, is he? This Bane?" Kopecz nodded. "I think he might be the one we've been searching for. He could be the Sith'ari."
"Before he can claim that title," Qordis said with a cunning smile, "he'll have to survive his training."
AC, the Sith'ari was prophesied as being a 'perfect being', 'the ultimate Sith', and an 'almost immortal being'. Now the fact that Kopecz believed that Bane might be the sith'ari, before he had ever been trained and after only seeing him in person once speaks volumes.
Anything describing Revan's power as blinding or whatnot is simply hyperbole, until we can actually get some concrete info on the guy, we can't deduce him s being above a guy who can play ping pong with moons. Sure, we can deduce that he's very powerful, but not as powerful as Bane, to argue that is pure fanboyism.
And Revan and Bane both picked their names, so I really don't see where you're going with your second point here.. But I suppose because Revan's name is so damn cool, he automatically gets brownie points.
If Bane is the Sith'ari, Planet, I could be a jerk and point out that the Sith'ari's destiny is "to make the Sith stronger". I could be an even bigger jerk and point out that that would imply that every Sith after him is more powerful than he is.
Dec 30th, 2006 07:37 PM
