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Originally posted by bigbran
I thought you didn't like pis... so why would cis be any different?

Anyway... scans, or at the very least, an issue number?
I haven't read Gorgon, just heard him on the forum, and he sounds pretty f*cking awesome to tell you the truth...


PIS is something that strictly goes against character representations/logic/and history to further a plot, CIS is simply part of a personality quirk...

It's comparible to when you're playing a video game and you do something like run your car into a wall on accident because you pressed the wrong button or something..


Actually Srank posted a buncha scans... i don't remember where they are though.. sad


tell ya what.. If I can, this weekend, I'll throw up a respeck thread for him.


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gorgons extremley overrated, and without the whole living corpse thing wouldve been killed by wolverine in their only straight up fight. but he still wins ths one


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Originally posted by jinzin
PIS is something that strictly goes against character representations/logic/and history to further a plot, CIS is simply part of a personality quirk...

It's comparible to when you're playing a video game and you do something like run your car into a wall on accident because you pressed the wrong button or something..


Actually Srank posted a buncha scans... i don't remember where they are though.. sad


tell ya what.. If I can, this weekend, I'll throw up a respeck thread for him.


Did Srank post them in the Gorgon vs. Gamora thread?

I forget, but, if he did, I can easily get the thread (having made it, and all)

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Originally posted by jinzin
PIS is something that strictly goes against character representations/logic/and history to further a plot, CIS is simply part of a personality quirk...

It's comparible to when you're playing a video game and you do something like run your car into a wall on accident because you pressed the wrong button or something..


Actually Srank posted a buncha scans... i don't remember where they are though.. sad


tell ya what.. If I can, this weekend, I'll throw up a respeck thread for him.
What about Thanos forgetting that claws from that level of strength shouldn't penetrate him... shifty

And pis is just a plot thing. Basically bad writing or something.

Both are good, and they don't hurt to use them from time to time Jinzin... wink

Ok, that would be cool.


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yeah actually i think that was it.


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Originally posted by jinzin
yeah actually i think that was it.
I'm looking and I saw the scans of him beating Electra...
I saw them before, but it's still cool...

I'm almost positive I remember more though...


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Originally posted by bigbran
What about Thanos forgetting that claws from that level of strength shouldn't penetrate him... shifty


you'd have a point if there was any evidence to counteract it.. like admantium swords being broken upon his chest or whatnot.. but until something COMPARIBLE (as i'm well aware of thanos' durability feats.. but comic book durability to take blunt force and stabbing trauma are different beasts) i can't see that as a good example.


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And pis is just a plot thing. Basically bad writing or something.

Both are good, and they don't hurt to use them from time to time Jinzin... wink

Ok, that would be cool.
Well I don't have a problem with PIS or CIS moments in context to the storyline..

the way it was, if wolverine just started chopping gorgon's limbs off, it would have made gorgon look like a pathetic super villain.. more like a joke than a threat.. so that's not a problem.. but it when people take those moments.. (like sabretooth not being able to life a car) and try to use them as a STANDARD when they are clearly not to suit their purposes in these debates.... THAT'S when i have a problem.


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Originally posted by bigbran
I thought you didn't like pis... so why would cis be any different?

Anyway... scans, or at the very least, an issue number?
I haven't read Gorgon, just heard him on the forum, and he sounds pretty f*cking awesome to tell you the truth...


Here Gorgon Pwns Elektra and Wolverine :

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/...xtv_p016-17.jpg
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http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/...fs_xtv_p021.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/...fs_xtv_p022.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/...fs_xtv_p023.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/...fs_xtv_p024.jpg


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Originally posted by jinzin
you'd have a point if there was any evidence to counteract it.. like admantium swords being broken upon his chest or whatnot.. but until something COMPARIBLE (as i'm well aware of thanos' durability feats.. but comic book durability to take blunt force and stabbing trauma are different beasts) i can't see that as a good example.
I'm not saying that adamantium can't cut him, I'm saying that along with the Power Gem, Wolverine shouldn't have the force to be able to penetrate his skin...
Plus, not to mention that (and I may be the only person/Thanos fan to think this) the IG saga/that comic, was poorly written.
I mean, Hulk/Drax throwing around Thanos...
She-Hulk/Namor doing the same...
Hulk beating down Thanos by himself...
Firelord choking Thanos, and actually bending him back...
Cyclops being able to almost knock Thanos off his feet...
Spider-Man knocking Thanos back, and almost off his feet...
Masterson Thor basically KOing Thanos twice...
Vision making Thanos have to shield himself from his eyebeams...
Masterson Thor punching around Thanos...
Scrlet Witch holding back Thanos's eyebeams for a couple panels...
Iron Man putting Thanos on his knees with his hand beams...
Cloak knocking Thanos off his feet, and sucking him in...
Pussy Nova moving Thanos's head with a punch...
Captain America dodging a punch by him, after it was thrown...
Cap not getting his neck snapped/torn off by a backhand...

It's not just Wolverine... it's the whole damn comic that bothers me...


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Originally posted by jinzin
Well I don't have a problem with PIS or CIS moments in context to the storyline..

the way it was, if wolverine just started chopping gorgon's limbs off, it would have made gorgon look like a pathetic super villain.. more like a joke than a threat.. so that's not a problem.. but it when people take those moments.. (like sabretooth not being able to life a car) and try to use them as a STANDARD when they are clearly not to suit their purposes in these debates.... THAT'S when i have a problem.
Wait... did the stab wounds that Wolverine inflicted heal up right away?
Because if so, then why would he be able to cut off a limb?


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Originally posted by bigbran
I'm not saying that adamantium can't cut him, I'm saying that along with the Power Gem, Wolverine shouldn't have the force to be able to penetrate his skin...
Plus, not to mention that (and I may be the only person/Thanos fan to think this) the IG saga/that comic, was poorly written.
I mean, Hulk/Drax throwing around Thanos...
She-Hulk/Namor doing the same...
Hulk beating down Thanos by himself...
Firelord choking Thanos, and actually bending him back...
Cyclops being able to almost knock Thanos off his feet...
Spider-Man knocking Thanos back, and almost off his feet...
Masterson Thor basically KOing Thanos twice...
Vision making Thanos have to shield himself from his eyebeams...
Masterson Thor punching around Thanos...
Scrlet Witch holding back Thanos's eyebeams for a couple panels...
Iron Man putting Thanos on his knees with his hand beams...
Cloak knocking Thanos off his feet, and sucking him in...
Pussy Nova moving Thanos's head with a punch...
Captain America dodging a punch by him, after it was thrown...
Cap not getting his neck snapped/torn off by a backhand...

It's not just Wolverine... it's the whole damn comic that bothers me...

I know it's highly suspect, but I stand by what I said before.


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Originally posted by bigbran
Wait... did the stab wounds that Wolverine inflicted heal up right away?
Because if so, then why would he be able to cut off a limb?
Nah, gorgon did bleed pretty good.


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Originally posted by bigbran
I thought you didn't like pis... so why would cis be any different?

Anyway... scans, or at the very least, an issue number?
I haven't read Gorgon, just heard him on the forum, and he sounds pretty f*cking awesome to tell you the truth...
Wolverine Agent of Shield, but Gorgon was part of about a years worth of storyline or so.


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Originally posted by capt it up
Alf please stop with your bull shit lies.

I own the issue it was from the onslaught saga.

Stick hit logan a few times when logan was trying to save him. Logan thought he was a crzy old man. Once logan figured out it was stick he too the advantage and dodge and blocked every single one of sticks attacks and then smack stick in the face.

Logan did not go berseker once.

next time you try and spout some bull shit make sure me and jinzin did not read the issue and own it.


Yeah thats why I said this afterwards.

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh well looks like Stick dies. Anyway I haven't read the comic so I cant judge for myself.


Ive stated earlier on that I havent read it and that why im open to opinions, so calm down for Gods sake.

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Originally posted by jinzin
I know it's highly suspect, but I stand by what I said before.




Thats not good at all that soudns liek your standing by PIS.


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Thats not good at all that soudns liek your standing by PIS.


No I'm standing against assumptions...

again just because thanos has crazy durability doesn't mean he doesn't have wonder woman syndrome.. maybe ha can take a black hole.. that doesn't mean much because it's not comparible to adamntium blades.. until thanos has a few (hell even 1) suitable example that people can't stab him with admantium blades.. it's not PIS... again what part of the plot did it advance? nothing, that's what.


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Stick is to blind to see himself getting beat down.


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Nah, gorgon did bleed pretty good.

Yeah. I remember it was a noticeably gory arc.

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again just because thanos has crazy durability doesn't mean he doesn't have wonder woman syndrome..


Your making assumptions Wonder Woman is the exception to the rule. I think WW has class 100 strength, do you know any other class 100 characters in Marvel who are vulnerable to bullets, knives and arrows?


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I'm pretty sure Stick can drain life-energy and amp himself with chi.


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alf you stated a bunch of crapp as if you knew what you were talking about and then you got called out for it and some how you stating you never read it makes it ok?roll eyes (sarcastic)

You still got got caught pritty much lieing.

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alf you stated a bunch of crapp as if you knew what you were talking about and then you got called out for it and some how you stating you never read it makes it ok?roll eyes (sarcastic)

You still got got caught pritty much lieing.


No dont ****ing accuse my of lying got it? I got my facts wrong. Im really starting to get sick if your rude behaviour you came to my ****ing respect thread and insulted me after ive added lots of scans.

Did I do that to your respect thread? I and others have noticed how you can be a total jerk. I was going to reply to your posts in Wolverine vs Cap but if you cant be polite just **** off. mad


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