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Soljer
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Well after today, that would be my last resort but what do you all go by, actual feats.


Feats, feats, and more feats.


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Originally posted by Metalmanx
The only thing correct about all that is the fighting ability one.



Where was Mojo's weight ever directly mentioned? Looking him up on a few different sites, they all say his weight is unknown.

Regardless, Longshot has NEVER been shown to have any sort of superhuman strength. Hell, he's probably not even peak human in strength.

Nor speed.

Nor endurance.

Nor durability.

Etc.

He DOES, however, have Daredevil-like agility.

He DOES have incredible aim.

He DOES have decent fighting skills.


Im sorry but this should explain to you everything that you need to know. Everything that you just named about longshot not having is all superhuman. Also in the marvel encyclopedia it quotes the same thing about him being superhuman in all categories.

http://www.marveldatabase.com/Longshot_%28Mojoverse%29

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Yes. I see it. I've read it before. I've also read comics featuring Longshot. And he's never shown any of these abilities before, unless I'm really missing something here. At the most, he's high-level athlete in terms of physical abilities.

That's the problem I'm having with it.


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Feats, feats, and more feats.


Are you ok soljer. You seem quite mad today.


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Yes. I see it. I've read it before. I've also read comics featuring Longshot. And he's never shown any of these abilities before, unless I'm really missing something here. At the most, he's high-level athlete in terms of physical abilities.

That's the problem I'm having with it.


so whos right you or his bio.


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Are you ok soljer. You seem quite mad today.


Eh, lack of sleep and some drama going around the dorm. Nothing too serious.

'ppreciate the concern, though.


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Yes. I see it. I've read it before. I've also read comics featuring Longshot. And he's never shown any of these abilities before, unless I'm really missing something here. At the most, he's high-level athlete in terms of physical abilities.

That's the problem I'm having with it.


spiderman has a spider sense that alerts him of danger and with that he also have agility that helps him avoid attack BUT he get hit by normal street thugs and beat up and hit by almost everyone that he fights. does that rake away the fact that he has those abilities. nope.


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so whos right you or his bio.


Guess we'll never know.


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Guess we'll never know.


Ill go by his bio waaaaaaaaaaaaay before I go by someone that might just be guessing about his abilities. Especially somebody that isnt going to vote against one of his favorite characters.


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Okie dokie then. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Okie dokie then. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Metalmanx, even though me and your answers are majority of the time different it is kind of fun disputing against you because you dont give up. Sometimes I hope that me or someone else have changed your mind but you stick to your opinion and we'll have to show some major facts in order to change your mind and thats cool, thats how it should be. Im saying this because I dont want you to think that I just go around disputing against you, when I pick someone, I pick them because I just think that theyre better. Just wanted to let you know that and dont change your ways because youre about the only one, along with a couple more, jinzin, masterbruce capt it up... that make these boards interesting. Im like a super senior here on these sites. I have been arguing on here for about 3 or 4 years now and i can tell that you all are seniors also.


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Metalmanx, even though me and your answers are majority of the time different it is kind of fun disputing against you because you dont give up. Sometimes I hope that me or someone else have changed your mind but you stick to your opinion and we'll have to show some major facts in order to change your mind and thats cool, thats how it should be. Im saying this because I dont want you to think that I just go around disputing against you, when I pick someone, I pick them because I just think that theyre better. Just wanted to let you know that and dont change your ways because youre about the only one, along with a couple more, jinzin, masterbruce capt it up... that make these boards interesting. Im like a super senior here on these sites. I have been arguing on here for about 3 or 4 years now and i can tell that you all are seniors also.


Well, I thank you for the compliment. And I want you to know that I, too, hope that some of can convince you to change your opinions as well. I enjoy the challenge. Because, like you, I pick someone to win because I believe they would be the victor in a fight. I'm not just blindly supporting Spider-Man in every right. No, I've said he loses plenty of times.

It's just about two years now since I've been doing this myself.

And carver, keep challenging me. smile Just stop being such a dick about it sometimes. erm


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Well, I thank you for the compliment. And I want you to know that I, too, hope that some of can convince you to change your opinions as well. Because, like you, I pick someone to win because I believe they would be the victor in a fight. I'm not just blindly supporting Spider-Man in every right. No, I've said he loses plenty of times.

It's just about two years now since I've been doing this myself.


What's your opinion of the NC Spiderman fight? I don't think Spiderman has a chance in hell against NC.


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Just stop being such a dick about it sometimes. erm



but you're fun to be a dick to stick out tongue embarrasment laughing out loud


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What's your opinion of the NC Spiderman fight? I don't think Spiderman has a chance in hell against NC.


Well, honestly? I think Spider-Man wins. Don't get me wrong, I think NC is great ans VERY underrated. But I also don't underrate (nor overrate) the spider-sense.

I mean, hell, he can sense Dr. Strange's astral form, but he can't sense a teleport?

http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10916ex.png

Right before Kurt attacks, Pete'll know where and when to dodge. Then he can counter accordingly. If his spider-sense didn't give him all the information, then he wouldn't be able to know how to dodge specific attacks (see attached).

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but you're fun to be a dick to stick out tongue embarrasment laughing out loud


stick out tongue

By the way. I like you so much better now, masterbruce. You're not being an ass and you're actually thinking logically now. I am very pleased. thumb up


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Well, honestly? I think Spider-Man wins. Don't get me wrong, I think NC is great ans VERY underrated. But I also don't underrate (nor overrate) the spider-sense.

I mean, hell, he can sense Dr. Strange's astral form, but he can't sense a teleport?

http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10916ex.png

Right before Kurt attacks, Pete'll know where and when to dodge. Then he can counter accordingly. If his spider-sense didn't give him all the information, then he wouldn't be able to know how to dodge specific attacks (see attached).


Now lets stop with all this romantic stuff and get back to the fight. I think that the fight goes longshot 6/10. By the way, I can be a dick sometimes, what man cant. We were just born to be stubborn. Its very hard to change my opinion, you actually have to bring something to the table to change my mind.


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Now lets stop with all this romantic stuff and get back to the fight. I think that the fight goes longshot 6/10. By the way, I can be a dick sometimes, what man cant. We were just born to be stubborn. Its very hard to change my opinion, you actually have to bring something to the table to change my mind.


Do tell.

Please explain to me how Longshot wins. I'll do my best to counter it.


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Do tell.

Please explain to me how Longshot wins. I'll do my best to counter it.


Since longshot strength isnt classified Im going to go with 2 tons. With that said that is enough to ko spiderman. Dont say that its not because king pin cant lift 2 tons and he did it. Now given that it has been stated that majority of everything about longshot is superhuman. So I see both of them dodging each other but sincelongshot has luck on his side (we are suppose to use the characters to the best of there abilities), I see spiderman tripping over things or birds flying in his face, just examples, leading to longshot getting in some good shots.


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Since longshot strength isnt classified Im going to go with 2 tons. With that said that is enough to ko spiderman. Dont say that its not because king pin cant lift 2 tons and he did it. Now given that it has been stated that majority of everything about longshot is superhuman. So I see both of them dodging each other but sincelongshot has luck on his side (we are suppose to use the characters to the best of there abilities), I see spiderman tripping over things or birds flying in his face, just examples, leading to longshot getting in some good shots.


Where does two tons come from? confused I know it says it's not specified, but two tons? Longshot's never shown that kind of strength. But whatever.

What kind of "good shots" are we talking about here? Spider-Man has superhuman durability as well, durability that Longshot would dream for. Example: Scorpion (who was several tons stronger than Spidey at the time, which would put him in the 15-20 ton range), nearly broke his hands when beating on Spidey.

And while I do agree that Longshot's probability-altering abilities could be interesting in this fight, there's still the fact that the spider-sense can account for most of these alterations in probability.


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