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Re: Caps punches

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Originally posted by Alfheim
This is in response to my comment were I said that Cap can replicate class 100 force, im trying to clear this up because basically KMC members are now trying to spread **** about me. If you misunderstood me fine...but this is what im trying to say.







Im sorry but some people on this forum just look for excuses to make fun of other members. I hope the above posts clarify the matter and puts an end to this BS....probably not.

P.S. For the record I dont think Cap can move manhattan with a punch, but when it comes to living beings he can achieve the same result as a class 100ers ie knock out other class 100ers

Cap can also cause more structural damage to physical objects than his strength would normally allow due to his knowldege of weak points in general eg decimating Iron Man's armour.



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Re: Caps punches

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Im sorry but some people on this forum just look for excuses to make fun of other members.


They don't have to look far when people supply all the ammo, big shot.


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Hey Guys I understand what Alf is trying to say. He isn't trying to say that Captain America can actually exert 100 tons of force that is a ludicrous statement.

All he is trying to say is that with his shield and knowledge of the human anotomy(Pressure and Weak Points) that Capt can recreate the effect of a 100 ton punch. Which is very reasonable.

So there really isn't a reason to try and jump down his throat if that is what some people were trying to do.
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erm

ecpt he said feet and fists as well......

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Originally posted by capt it up
ecpt he said with out his shield........
That definitely makes things harder on Cap but if Cap is a 5 tonner which he has shown some good feats to suggest things. Hitting weak points could still have the same effect. Although it would be very unlikely.


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That definitely makes things harder on Cap but if Cap is a 5 tonner which he has shown some good feats to suggest things. Hitting weak points could still have the same effect. Although it would be very unlikely.


capt not a 5 tonner and it never been shown that he is either.


people were saying at best capt could hit with 5 ton force.


alf jsut being rediculous as always

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Originally posted by capt it up
capt not a 5 tonner and it never been shown that he is either.


people were saying at best capt could hit with 5 ton force.


alf jsut being rediculous as always
I can agree with hitting with 5 ton force.

Although it doesn't change the fact that hitting weak points with any kind of ton force would could hurt a low class 100 guy. It is kind of a toss up as to whether or not without the shield cap could say hurt a 100 ton guy.


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Originally posted by Alfheim
Why not? If its not its because people want to be ***holes not because ive said anything stupid.

People make fun of you because you're thin skinned enough to create a thread about how you don't want to be made fun of.

Grow a pair of nuts you freakishly effeminate wack-job.


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People make fun of you because you're thin skinned enough to create a thread about how you don't want to be made fun of.

Grow a pair of nuts you freakishly effeminate wack-job.


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Cap is trained in martial arts, he knows pressure points and such.... that can make a difference against stronger enemies.


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Cap is trained in martial arts, he knows pressure points and such.... that can make a difference against stronger enemies.

not against people who are 50 times stronger then him or more.....

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hhmmm what about chi?
like bruce lee's one inch punch.

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Alright, look I catch what you're selling here but very few people are buying. Such is the way with an open-market advertisement like this sometimes. My suggestion is pull a Crystal Pepsi and smother this topic...act like it never happened and you have no idea what people are talking about.


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Originally posted by "V"
I'm villifying absolutely nobody, I've stated you have a Man-Crush on Captain America before and I stand by it.


You dont know what you're talking about.


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In the single scan you posted Namor was under some sort of control, therefore probably not performing to his usual standards,


Er, bro. No he wasnt but there is no evidence to prove that mind control affects durability. Hell if anything it could be argued that it makes you more durable, its like trying to knock out a drunk person.


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in what way in that one panel has Captain America knocked him out?


You see, help me out here this is why people like you annoy me. Look what I said.....

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So why is he able to stun people as strong as Namor? You can see from the scan Namor was stunned.


I used the word stun, you know like when a boxer gets hit. The boxer does not become unconscious but is momentarily dazed.


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He staggered him by a blow to the throat (which would atleast surpise you)


I see....so Namor has taken shots from The Hulk before his throat has superhuman durability, hes floating in the water momentarily.....and thats because he was....suprised?

Maybe, just maybe he was momentraily stunned....but hey lets be objective about this and lets assume he was suprised.

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or it could be perceived as a blow to whatever was on the back of his throat.




Er no....that part of the body is called the neck...and its the back of the neck, so its called the throat now?


a) Cap says he was aiming for the throat
b) Cap doesnt touch whats on the back of his neck. Do you want me to draw around his hand with a red marker?


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You make a habit out of jumping to conclusions based on single panels,


What like you? Where the back of the neck is suddenly the throat.




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for example your punisher is super-human


What you wanna refer to ONE thread? Furthermore I was'nt even that serious and I mentioned that but obvoulsy you have forgotten.

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and things like that.


What like Cap is superhuman? You mean the thread Cap is superhuman? You mean the thread where loads of people agreed with me. You have a selective memory, im not saying I dont make mistakes but all yopu have done is remebered the negative things. Lets take a look at what you have said about my post:

a) Cap strikes Namor, Namor is temporarily motionless. Namor has taken shots from The Hulk before, you came to the conclusion that he was "suprised" when he was most likely stunned.

b) The back of the neck is now the throat. Does that sound like somebody who is being objective?


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I am in no way trying to villify you, I'm just saying some of the things you say are far from reliable. Especially when it concerns Captain America & the Punisher.


See above.

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People make fun of you because you're thin skinned enough to create a thread about how you don't want to be made fun of.

Grow a pair of nuts you freakishly effeminate wack-job.


**** you. Treat people the way in which you would like to be treated.


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Even thow a pressure point, has a greater affect than a normal punch, you have to keep in mind that people like Namor's muscle's are far more durable that cap's, meaning that while cap would hit a normal person with it and would bring him down, the same strike would be like a little tap on Namor.
He's just not strong enough to put enough force in the pressure point strike to level a guy who's 100 ton.
let's say cap is a 1 tonner a 100 tonners muscle's are also 100 time's more durable than cap's.

and the whole body should be 100 time's stronger iff not than the guy won't be able to lift the 100 ton, iff he had like weak leg muscle or weak bone's.
So cap won't be able to find a point weak enough for him to strike it, and get some effect out of it.

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Even thow a pressure point, has a greater affect than a normal punch, you have to keep in mind that people like Namor's muscle's are far more durable that cap's, meaning that while cap would hit a normal person with it and would bring him down, the same strike would be like a little tap on Namor.
He's just not strong enough to put enough force in the pressure point strike to level a guy who's 100 ton.
let's say cap is a 1 tonner a 100 tonners muscle's are also 100 time's more durable than cap's.

and the whole body should be 100 time's stronger iff not than the guy won't be able to lift the 100 ton, iff he had like weak leg muscle or weak bone's.
So cap won't be able to find a point weak enough for him to strike it, and get some effect out of it.


1.It could be argued that Cap would then hit the weak point harder. For example Cap knocked the Rhino out by jump kicking him on the bridge of the nose. Cap would punch a normal person on the bridge of the nose. I've seen scans of Cap fly kicking Mr Hyde in the throat, Cap would not fly kick a normal person in the throat.

2. Hes been doing it for years Caps knowldege of fighting is like a superpower. Eventhough a class 100s weak points are still strong Cap can still stun them because he is so good. Comic book physics.


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1.It could be argued that Cap would then hit the weak point harder. For example Cap knocked the Rhino out by jump kicking him on the bridge of the nose.

2. Hes been doing it for years Caps knowldege of fighting is like a superpower. Eventhough a class 100s weak points are still strong Cap can still stun them because he is so good. Comic book physics.


Euh the jumping part wouldn't really work, for a real pressure point since Namor issn't like 20 feet, the pressure point is not like the whole arm.
It's a "point".
Iff cap would jump kick it he wouldn't be able to hit it just the surface, of the arm.

Now he might be able to jump to the stomach yet I think a person like namors abs are way to strong to get him to lose his breath.
Might work with the shield, but don't think it would.

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