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Darth Macabre
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Also no one in the real world hearing or smelling would help them with knowing if a person is lieing lol.
shifty Don't be too sure about that.



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shifty Don't be too sure about that.



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lol. imagine if the only super power you got was super hearing while all your friends go like super speed or strength or durabilty or could fly lol

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The problem is Daredevil can smell extremely well as well, granted Wolverine has a superior set of nostrils, but DD isn't a pushover in that respect, plus DD detects the fluctuations in the heartbeat to tell if someone's lying through his hearing. In the real world and the comic book universe, people generally perspire more when they lie which technically both DD and Wolverine can pick up but I'm not sure if Logan can hear someone's heartbeat which DD has done more times than having a hot meal.

But at the end of the day to differentiate between the two is simply splitting hairs, the characters are as good as those who write them say they are yes


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The problem is Daredevil can smell extremely well as well, granted Wolverine has a superior set of nostrils, but DD isn't a pushover in that respect, plus DD detects the fluctuations in the heartbeat to tell if someone's lying through his hearing. In the real world and the comic book universe, people generally perspire more when they lie which technically both DD and Wolverine can pick up but I'm not sure if Logan can hear someone's heartbeat which DD has done more times than having a hot meal.

But at the end of the day to differentiate between the two is simply splitting hairs, the characters are as good as those who write them say they are yes

agreed.

oh logan can hear heart beats even from very very far way.

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Do you have any examples? it's not that I don't believe you or anything, I just have never seen Logan do it yes


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Do you have any examples? it's not that I don't believe you or anything, I just have never seen Logan do it yes

I am at school so I only take comics that are figthing feats. I see what I can find nhere though/ I know I have many comics back home I can get at a later date I may have a few at school with me also

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Lol. If Wolverine can hear heartbeats from a large distance. . .sigh.

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Lol. If Wolverine can hear heartbeats from a large distance. . .sigh.

why sigh?......he has super hearing and always has..........

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I apparently wasn't aware of how "super" his hearing actually was. I always thought of his hearing more as just very "adept" but I guess not.

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it supose to be superior to any animals........

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What would you guys say the ranges of their senses are?

DD hearing: 1 mile
Wolv hearing: 800 meters

DD smell: 1200 meters
Wolverine smell: 1 mile?

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Lol. Well to be a bit more general Daredevil mentions that he can smell the beer on Logan's breathe from four blocks away inside the issue we're talking about.

Also, there's the issue of sensitivity here. There's a bit of a difference between hearing a pin drop at 800 meters and hearing someone yelling at 800 meters.

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What issue is it?

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It's The Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America first issue. Wolverine takes Daredevil to interrogate Crossbones while Dr. Strange sheilds them from the S.H.E.I.L.D. stuff.

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see that false actaully. In order to see if a person lieing a better sense of smell would be needed not hearing. Also unlike DD logan was trained in the art of lieing as well as hwo to tell when some one is lieing. He be teh superior at telling if some one was infact lieing.


No, hearing would be more efficient. And quicker, too. As soon as someone is surprised with a question and lying, their heartbeat gives it away. It would take moments longer for any sort of chemical smell to be sensed. The sound would be first and the first indicator to give the liar away. I'm pretty positive DD's been calling out liars much more than Wolverine does.

And I'll admit that Wolvie's sense of smell is better, since DD outright admitted it.


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No, hearing would be more efficient. And quicker, too. As soon as someone is surprised with a question and lying, their heartbeat gives it away. It would take moments longer for any sort of chemical smell to be sensed. The sound would be first and the first indicator to give the liar away. I'm pretty positive DD's been calling out liars much more than Wolverine does.

And I'll admit that Wolvie's sense of smell is better, since DD outright admitted it.

see thats false and true. First it true if the person had no forumal training in lieing which fo course cross bone would have. You then ahve to rely on smell. Also wolverine can ehar hear beats also so DD superior hearing would not be needed.

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both guys have extensive history with using their senses for lie detection. daredevil said about elektra that he knows "exactly what her body smells and sounds like when she's lying," so we know he's using both of those senses when he's on the case. it's not at all difficult to assume logan would, could and does do the same, and i'm sure it's been outright stated somewhere.

it was probably just an excuse to have daredevil in the scene, or to act as a second opinion to wolverine in case his personal feelings regarding the situation clouded his judgement.

as for range, DD's detected a trained assassin and sniper from [i believe] twelve city blocks away in broad daylight in the hustle and bustle of new york city life. he failed to detect paladin in a helicopter sniping at him from over the hudson river whilst he himself was in the middle of hell's kitchen. so there's a range estimate.


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In hindsight the main reason why we know Wolverine brought DD to stop him from killing Crossbones is because he was talking to the Winter Soldier before he spoke to DD.

As far as I Know Winter Soldiers senses are not greater than Wolverines. Since WS did not go with Wolverne he resorted to bringing DD along.

When DD asked Wolverine wether he brought him along to stop him from killing him Wolverine did not answer.....implying that this was true. If it was'nt Wolverine probably would have said something like "Hey **** you man you could'nt stop me from killing him if you tried."


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Lol. I like that logic. No answer = True.

Not that I dissagree. The whole Bucky thing is the best point against "He took DD to be a lie detector." I just think the no answer thought process is pretty funny.

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Lol. I like that logic. No answer = True.

Not that I dissagree. The whole Bucky thing is the best point against "He took DD to be a lie detector." I just think the no answer thought process is pretty funny.


Yeah capt it up is right, but for the wrong reason. He thinks DD was brought along for lie detection beacuse hes a rabid fanboy and doesnt want to belive anybody is superior to Wolverine. He didnt come to that conclusion through careful consideration. If it wasnt for Winter Soldier you could probably assume that DD was there for lie detection.

Its funny how Winter Soldier hasnt even crossed Capt it ups mind.


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