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Flash can grant Speed to others easily. Which means that everyone on the DC team will be moving and thinking faster than usual. Comined with a GL and the fact that many of the DC people are extremely intelligent had have access to huge amounts of GodTech and such and it would be hard to out prep them.



OK now I see. DC guys are just too powerfull.


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guys no one on ur team could beat the silver surfer in an enraged state he can shatter planets when pissed hes to much to handleand he has teammates lol


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guys no one on ur team could beat the silver surfer in an enraged state he can shatter planets when pissed hes to much to handleand he has teammates lol
You kidding me right?


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You kidding me right?

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I doubt it, but my idea wasn't counting on it anyways. Flash's time control and speed lending can extend their prep almost literally forever. I haven't seen Surfer do anything quite similar or share it as such.

However, I was just taking at base value, the intelligence level and likely resources available between the teams is staggering.
Since when have Flash and Wonder Woman been geniuses erm

The fact is Thor and Silver Surfer both had or have Time Manip abilities as well and SS can share is power cosmic with other people. Thor and SS prep> The other team combined. There is no doubt about it. And yes Cain is more of a resource then you think.

If you want to know the truth SS gives him 65% of his Power Cosmic. Thor gives him his hammer and Champion gives him some of the power Primordial. Cain has literally just become> Then DC combined


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oh, I forgot about the SS cloning ability. Marvel stomp on DC.
SS turns the lot of them into Heralds.

a Silver Surfer level Hulk Herald would just annihilate any of the DC characters. too strong (insanely overpowering), too fast for anyone - including the Flash - and impossible to kill.


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just as Surfer could drain Hulk of his gamma radiation, the Surfer could simply pump Hulk - a CALM Hulk - full of Gamma radiation and make him stronger than all the other characters combined.

that's just another way for Marvel to stomp on DC... really hadn't considered Surfer empowering the other characters, but now that I am thinking about it. Marvel wins in every scenario bar the one where Batman prep is used. Batman with prep is too much to overcome, unless Doom prep or Reed prep is used.


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Since when have Flash and Wonder Woman been geniuses erm

The fact is Thor and Silver Surfer both had or have Time Manip abilities as well and SS can share is power cosmic with other people. Thor and SS prep> The other team combined. There is no doubt about it. And yes Cain is more of a resource then you think.

If you want to know the truth SS gives him 65% of his Power Cosmic. Thor gives him his hammer and Champion gives him some of the power Primordial. Cain has literally just become> Then DC combined
Remember Flash outthinking the computer from the 853rd century, for example?

Thor has no time control last I checked.
Silver Surfer's few instances of viewing into time and stuff are nothing comparable to Flash in the slightest from what I've seen.

Can you show me Surfer doing something like that in continuity. Giving another person his power cosmic?
Same for Champion with his power? All I've seen that guy do is get his ass beat.
Thor isn't the one who deems worthy, correct? Rather Odin? I'm doubting Cain is worthy to wield it.


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LOL


OK, if we're going this idiotic route now. Hal's ring is the ring with the ability to create other rings. He turns the entire group into GLs. In the meanwhile, while they practice in 'Flash time' for the equivelent of 10,000,00000000,000000000,0000000000000 years, Hal decides to walk into the OA batter again, and obtain power like he had in Zero Hour.



Now please, quit it.


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Surfer/Heralds absorb the OAN battery.
GL's run out of juice, stomped. Marvel wins.

Surfer has empowered other people - humans, nevermind superhumans - with his exact powers. it's a legitimate power of his and thus this thread swings totally towards Marvel.


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Well, this was a nice thread at one point. roll eyes (sarcastic)

.......Surfer absorb the OAN battery? What the f**k? Man, Thanos has higher absorbtion feats, so I think he'd have a shot. I don't think anyone on marvel's team can absorb the battery.

Edit: Thor did have time travel with his hammer at one point, but that power was jacked by Immortus.


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Surfer/Heralds absorb the OAN battery.
GL's run out of juice, stomped. Marvel wins.

Surfer has empowered other people - humans, nevermind superhumans - with his exact powers. it's a legitimate power of his and thus this thread swings totally towards Marvel.
Except I already had Hal absorb the battery above in the other post.
He then writes them out of all timelines simultaneously.


DC wins, regardless of how ****ing stupid you guys went and made the thread.


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Surfer absorbs the Oan battery?


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This thread was lopsided from the start, hulk and champion cannot keep up with the speed, and juggernaut will just sit there taking damage forever with his shield up, until he gets bfred. A more balanced fight would have been Thor, Silver Surfer, Quasar, Beta Ray Bill, Adam Warlock, Sentry Vs. Superman, The Flash, GL, WonderWoman, Lobo, Martian Manhunter Be close in every category except 4, where Marvel would dominate IMO. Dooms prep is scary, alot more so than batmans


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Since when have Flash and Wonder Woman been geniuses erm


WW's been around a long time. Current Flash has a photographic memory and absorbed all the info in an entire library. Imagine what happens if you put him in the Batcave.

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The fact is Thor and Silver Surfer both had or have Time Manip abilities as well.


Thor's TimeManip was removed wasn't it? What are SS's TimeManip feats?

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SS can share is power cosmic with other people. Thor and SS prep> The other team combined. There is no doubt about it. And yes Cain is more of a resource then you think.

If you want to know the truth SS gives him 65% of his Power Cosmic. Thor gives him his hammer and Champion gives him some of the power Primordial. Cain has literally just become> Then DC combined


What makes you think Champ could hold the hammer?

You're ignoring that DC will probably be in the Fortress and Cave the whole time too. Flash will be portioning out speed to the whole group. GL will be making everything the team needs. Batman will be planning out tactics and giving out tech (motherbox anyone?). Superman has a bunch of robots to help. WW has a fair share of magical artifacts.

If they really needed to they could also thow everything on one person and go for the overwhelming ,move too.


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WW's been around a long time. Current Flash has a photographic memory and absorbed all the info in an entire library. Imagine what happens if you put him in the Batcave.



Thor's TimeManip was removed wasn't it? What are SS's TimeManip feats?



What makes you think Champ could hold the hammer?

You're ignoring that DC will probably be in the Fortress and Cave the whole time too. Flash will be portioning out speed to the whole group. GL will be making everything the team needs. Batman will be planning out tactics and giving out tech (motherbox anyone?). Superman has a bunch of robots to help. WW has a fair share of magical artifacts.

If they really needed to they could also thow everything on one person and go for the overwhelming ,move too.
I'd think of some constructive stuff to add, I'm dissapointed at how the thread turned for the worse. Silver Surfer becoming like Galactus and making several heralds as strong as himself and them running off to absorb the entire OAN battery. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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I'd think of some constructive stuff to add


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I'm dissapointed at how the thread turned for the worse. Silver Surfer becoming like Galactus and making several heralds as strong as himself and them running off to absorb the entire OAN battery. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Thats a tad insane.


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As the threadmaker, I've actually found this thread to have taken a turn for the humorous.

Now, it wasn't my intention to see comments such as the one created below, but I couldn't help but laugh out loud. Aw boy, that's too much.

laughing


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Surfer absorbs the Oan battery?



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As the threadmaker, I've actually found this thread to have taken a turn for the humorous.

Now, it wasn't my intention to see comments such as the one created below, but I couldn't help but laugh out loud. Aw boy, that's too much.

laughing





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laughing thumb up At least you realized you goofed. Check out Mykke's post, he had a good idea of how to make this more even.


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laughing thumb up At least you realized you goofed. Check out Mykke's post, he had a good idea of how to make this more even.


It wasn't my intention to make this a draw/even match, per se. ....rather just a random scenarios with some elements of prep for each team, that's all. Yes, looking back I see I gave marvel too many bricks.

You, or someone, of course is more welcome to start their own. Know what I mean?


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Surfer absorbs the Oan battery?


rolling on floor laughing

I just can't get over this. The tears are pooring from my eyes, I tell ya'!

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