Silver Surfer DOES have resistance to matter manipulation and Superman arguably does to because he is invulnerable on a cellular level.
Colossus has nothing to suggest resistance to Iceman's tricks. Moisture Inversion is only one of bobby's options, if he could flash freeze the stranger than he could to the same to colossus.
Meh... I don't remember whether 616 Iceman can actually do the moisture inversion thing... but he can just supercool Colossus and then flick him and shatter him to pieces.
Hulk and Magneto? I'm not sure. I seem to recall the Hulk resisting matter transmutation at some point or another, but maybe that's just the fanboys getting to me.
Magneto? If Erik was unprepared, absolutely.
If Erik was fighting for control, it'd be a bit of a toss up between which of them could overpower the other on the atomic scale.
Finally, I said he could do it to those who are made of matter AND lack any sort of resistance to matter manipulation.
You said he could transmute all matter which you can not prove.
You said Colossus is Matter which is correct
You said he can not resist which is unproven and their is such evidence to suggest he could seeing as you can not even prove Iceman's trick would work on Colossus.
There is no evidence to show that Colossus could resist the moisture inversion trick.
What you're saying is "We've never seen Jimmy Olsen FAIL to shatter planets with his bare hands, and render space-time meaningless via sheer intellect...thusly, he MUST be able to."
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ive said too much
Not really I could go into more detail but I'll simply ask a few questions
How many times has Iceman done the Moisture Inversion Trick?
Can you even be sure he can actually transmutate things into water?
Or does he simply just break down the main components of a person which happen to be water?
Can you prove he can do it to non water based objects?
Can you prove that Iceman does this on a regular basis enough to say that you are 100% certain that Iceman can do this to all sentient and non sentient objects he comes across?
I don't think you can and never mind the feats I have for Colossus first prove that Iceman is truely capable and not just some hunch based on a few one time feats
I know Sersi can turn a dog into a chair and perform a blood transfusion through the air... why would Colossus being organic metal do anything to prevent her or any other matter manipulator from affecting him, or Emma Frost in diamond form, or Dust, or Mercury for that matter...
This reminds me of the whole... "Hulk can pass his hand through Engineer's atomic sieve unaffected thing."
Sersi is a poor example because she is greater than the person beinf talked about in this thread and even then there have been plenty of things she has failed to transmute as well.
And I have my reasons but now I choose to keep them to myself
Iceman does not have matter manipulation nor can he manipulate molecules. He can merely absorb heat which would slow down molecules indirectly. Where did he transmute something into water? Can you post a scan that would indicate that he could transmute a person into water?
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Except the body idn'y mostly made out of Carbon it is primarily H2O You freeze the non H2O based objects and the body and the body would break into Water
This would include the Skin, Blood, some Muscles, boned.
The other parts would basically just be left behind but the body would turn into water
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