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each of them is able to tap into the PP for a variety of effects collector has beaten down the avengers, grandmaster has done the same. obviously immortality is another gain. ego has beaten a weak galactus and his power presumably stems from the PP as well.
again, i think it's simply a matter of who fights who, who is better skilled and who can tap the most power. both sources are essentially the same thing.
You're talking about the time Galactus ran away, right?
He only did that, because the two were too evenly matched in the fight. (please log in to view the image)
Otherwise, a weak Galactus has gotten the better of Ego (and was about to destroy him before, Thor cheapshotted him).
Power cosmic by a mile. the PC powers galactus. Galactus simply consumed the elders-all of them sans runner who was away at the time-simultaneously when they got to be too much of a pain in the ass.
they only survived due to the pact with death that forbid them from "dying" per se.
if all of the elders combined didn't pose a threat to the big G, the power primordial can't be very impressive at all.
note that this occurred before the "invention" of the infinity gems by marvel, so the gems or lack thereof can't be used to explain the low showing there.
The only reason we can say the PC > PP is because we don't even know what the PP does for people who use it.
We don't even know if the Elders have thier powers inherently or from the PP. If they do get everything from the PP then it's likely more versatile the the PC.
I know Champion has stated that his power comes from the PP but the way he uses it is very linear. Runner has speed and his "likability aura" the speed likely comes from the PP but the aura could just be part of who he is.
What does the Grandmaster get out of it at all? Gardener? Collecter?
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I would think, by the very nature of the term, that 'power primordial', (with all else being equal) should be the stronger (certainly the more fundamental) of the two.
But in the realm of which sounds and looks cooler in writing: power cosmic ftw.
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but we DO know it is the power of the big bang. that is the same source from which the PC stems. grandmaster has tapped the PP for all sorts of 'cosmic' effects, and collector has done the same.
before he became a champion jobber champion was strong enough to easily handle some of the strongest beings on earth (including thor) simultaneously and effortlessly. the elders need the annihilus treatment to define them further and to more closely examine the extent of their power.
i still see no logical way to say one is more powerful though. be like saying ironman's repulsors are more powerful than any magic because he could beat someone who could only cast illusions or something.
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