You never proved anything you just listed off what you always list off about him beating Anoon and he was tired in TPM. Asajj was a good fight for Anakin 5 months before ROTS, i don't think she would have got her saber cut in half, and then herself cut in half by padawan Kenobi. So maybe Maul was the only one not worthy enough to be the the Sith apprentice. Atleast she would admit it.
Well, Sidious certainly thought that Maul was good enough to be his apprentice, and, unfortunately, it's his opinion that counts, not yours. And Sidious tells Dooku in DR that if he was Dooku he'd kill Asajj for going after Yoda, shows that Sidious views Maul as stronger than Asajj and, again, his opinion counts for far more than yours, mine, or even *gasps!* Advent's or Janus's (no disrespect meant, Janus)!
Oh, and tackle this, if you dare/can (chose whichever word you like best ):
1. In Dark Rendezvous, Asajj tells Dooku that Sidious will uss Dooku up, here's the dialogue:
«He's going to use you up, Count. He'll drain the blood from you and throw you aside. He'll pick someone younger, weaker, easier to influence.»
«Someone like you?»
«I wish. No, when you go, I'll be swept aside,» she said morosely. «I'm just one of your creatures, to him. Maybe to you, too. Loyalty runs stronger up than it does down, in case you hadn't noticed.»
So, according to Asajj, she isn't good enough to be Sidious apprentice. Maul isn't only good enough to be his apprentice, Sidious actually hand-selected Maul out of a galaxy of hundreds of billions of beings.
2. Maul, when not at his full strength, took on Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi, 2 on 1, and nearly beat them. He would have won if Kenobi hadn't gotten lucky, and he killed Qui-Gon. Asajj wasn't to far ahead of J'ai Maruk, and Qui-Gin > J'ai Maruk. Asajj also barely beat Kit Fisto, and Qui-Gon > Kit. Proof of this can be provided if necessary. And remember that this was Maul not as his full strength. The quote for him not being at full strength can be provided, if necessary, as well.
3. Maul beat Anoon Bondara, who was stated in 2 different novels to be the best swordsman in the order. Again, Asajj was barely ahead of Kit Fisto - a least half a dozen of the order's best swordsman could beat Asajj.
4. When enraged, Maul nearly killed Sidious in a lightsaber duel. Asajj was about on par with Obsession Anakin, and neither of them could almost kill Sidious in a lightsaber duel.
5. In he fought ANH Vader and nearly won - as a matter of fact, he was winning the entire time, until Vader got desperate and stabbed his lightsaber through his own body and into Maul, a move that nearly killed himself. Leland Chee confirmed the canonicity of the story on his blog: http://blogs.starwars.com/holocron/22/comments
Not only do people here put Vader above Asajj, they even put him above Dooku.
6. Physically, Asajj is very fit and strong, but Maul is a beast and has spent 22 years doing absolutely nothing except training. He is in better shape than she is and is bigger as well.
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Why else would Sidious have wanted Asajj dead (in otherwords, he doesn't give a shit about her) but choose Maul as an apprentice out of a galaxy of billions? If Maul wasn't stronger than Asajj then what's the reasoning behind that?
I'm not disputing that Maul > Asajj, but that is poor reasoning for it. Sidious didn't give a shit about her because she wasn't her responsibility and he already had a stronger apprentice. Hell, Sidious didn't give a shit about anybody [Maul included], with the possible exception of Anakin.
I guess it all depends on if we're talking with a saber, the Force, or all out. I'm not too good at these. I'm better at the more direct "versus" topics, when we actually put him against someone.
Maul beat Quigon because they were in an enclosed space and Quigon, a master of ataro, wasn't good in enclosed spaces.
Obi-Wan wasn't yet converted to Soresu at this time. He was still trying to master ataro. As a natural born Soresu user though, he still put up an impressive fight against Maul before his inferior force-power allowed Maul to throw him in the hole.
Maul took on ONE Jedi for most of that fight. When they were both fighting him, Maul jumped away. Oh, he jumped away real fancy, but he still jumped away. He rarely crossed light sabers with both of them.
Even without his apprentice in an enclosed space against a highly aggressive fighter in his prime, Quigon did real well. He was actually winning until he got tired and was forced to go defensive.
Huh? Are you saying that the reason Darth Maul lost to Obi-Wan was because of a hole in the ground?
Maybe Kenobi got lucky with Maul, but that was Kenobi the apprentice. His saber skills weren't even close to prime. In fact, he hadn't even decided what form of lightsaber combat to master. But Kenobi's Soresu at the end of the clone wars was a masterpeice.
How could Darth Maul beat Master Kenobi as easily as you say?
Jul 3rd, 2007 11:03 PM
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