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Longinus
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Gargant was alive the whole time as Sam fought him right after On1, which is before Oni2. Man don't come back here unless you educate yourself with the proper knowledge and also Nobunaga is no demon, he's the demon king. He's in a class all his own so why would he even be mentioned in the same sentence as Gargant when it concerns power? Use logic you're wrong and Gargant wins.

Sep 19th, 2007 06:34 PM

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demon king=demon. i did use my knowlege and gogandantess wins. your logic is so flawed you won't accept others

Sep 19th, 2007 09:18 PM

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How is my logic flawed? Like I said, why would anyone even compare Gargant and Nobunaga. Capcom has stated this (Gargant is the most powerful demon, he's not classed as a demon king), as have scrolls in the game. What more proof do you want? What you're saying is idiotic. Did Fortinbras have the title of demon, no, he was titled as Demon King meaning he's above the other demons much as Nobunaga was. Please explain how Dantess wins. For all your talking you haven't stated any valid reasons why'd he win. A person saying something themselves doesn't make a statement true and neither does someone else saying a statement make it true but I be much more inclined to believe scrolls in the game which detail characters and advance the plot than the ramblings of an arrogant demon who calls HIMSELF the greatest swordsman of all the demons (noone else states this). Your logic is so flawed you can't accept others when you've been proven wrong on multiple occassions.

Sep 19th, 2007 11:59 PM

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nobunaga and fortinbra were still demons. and fortinbra was a demon god, not king. that was nobunaga's rank. the only thing that comes close was the description of how they had respect/friendship with each other in blade warriors.

i already explained that dantess won't neccessarily win. i just said that it would probably be a good fight. the scrolls were written by fictional characters, and there were no mentions of gargrant in oni1 as far as i'm concerned. dantess was quite possibly considered the strongest untill he died in oni2, or it can be the person's opinion.

either way dantess has more feats and coolness going for him, and gargrant wasn't even a boss untill oni4, where soki killed him without even using his oni awakening.

Sep 20th, 2007 04:53 AM

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Gargant was stated as being the most powerful demon in scrolls, scrolls act as story fillers in the game moron, have you no played the game? Developers put them into explain things and so far all scrolls have been true, the fact that they're written by fictional characters makes no difference when in fact the majority of Onimusha isn't REAL genius. Gogondantess was never considered the most powerful because Gargant was always around. Fortinbras was never considered a god until Oni DoD in Oni1 he was simply demon king because he didn't have the level of power he had in DoD. Understand now? Dantess how many feats? Didn't Jubei kill him without going Oni, yes he did. Now your argument is starting to fall apart so he can't be this great you're making him out to be. The fact that Samanosuke had to go Oni to beat him shows his power. Also the fact that Soki beat him without going Oni just shows how good Soki is and not to mention he possesses the power of the Oni God of Darkness. Yea man wheres your logic. Just give up, you're fighting a losing battle. Cut your loses and bail the phuck out...

Sep 20th, 2007 10:59 PM

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gogantess destroyed a whole oni base with the help of 2 regular demons.

gargant doesn't have any feats that measure up.

oni3=after oni2 idiot. the guy wrote that he was the strongest at the time he was already dead. believing gargant has an advantage is one thing(which noone else really agrees on except you) and believing that he wins everytime is just stupit

capcom already stated tht they had mutual respect for each other, meaning that they admire each other's skills, but i guess you forgot that. or didn't play buraiden/blade warriors

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Sep 20th, 2007 11:43 PM

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Ok they did have mutal respect for one another, but that doesn't change the fact Gargant was around right after On1 as stated Buraiden/Blade Warriors idiot. So it doesn't change the fact that Gargant is the most powerful, documentation has stated this. There is no document stating the same concerning Dantess, only Dantess makes those bold claims about himself and that didn't save his ass with Jubei. I like how avoided all my other arguments ass, way to dodge. This same discussion was over at Gamefaqs when Oni3 was released and the general opinion was Gargant would spank his ass. Also are you referring to the Oni Sacred Place, you mean that was the fortress that Dantess destroyed? If so thats a lie, the Oni were destroyed eons ago by the demons as stated by Guildenstern and the Oni themselves. The fortress was destroyed after Dantess' death ass, Tokichiro blew it up I believe AFTER stealing the Oni Tortoise. Anyway this is deteriorating into a bitching match... BUT if you want to keep going I won't stop. Funny that on an equal playing field (no shield) Jubei spanked Dantess but Samanosuke would've died had he not went Oni... still can't over your avoidance of the other points I made...nice job

Sep 21st, 2007 12:18 AM

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the only one really bitching is you.

if you don't want to accept that dantess killed every oni on the ship, that's fine with you.

samansuke was also having trouble with the two pig demons in the gameplay.

jubei vs gogandantess was a gameplay battle where you can use your regular oni awakening, but i guess it doesn't count now, because you don't get it.

anyways i guesss there's no way to convince your thick head. arguments on gamefaqs are dumb anyways. people just tend to agree with whoever gets the most votes. or whoever gets the most fanboys. the whole being unbeatable just because you claim someone is stronger is stupit too. sam got his ass kicked by claudius a few times before he killed him, it shows that either is capable of kicking each other's ass.

Sep 21st, 2007 01:17 AM

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Well obviously you're a fanboy of Dantess and I Gargant which is why you defend him so fiercely, albeit poorly but hey whatev. and this has degenerated into a bitching match...you scream idiot, I scream assfart. So whatever, people have probably avoided this topic because of the dumbass back and forth going on here, maybe you don't see that. But OT, was it stated or shown that Dantess killed any Oni on the Sacred Place? No, why? Because they were already dead. Simple.

Sep 21st, 2007 03:00 AM

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so you completely ignore that i said it would be a good match.

if i was a true fanboy, i'd just say dantess wins easily, which is as easy to say as the other way around. capcom never made them fight each other or made any real way to compare, and dantess was a better boss.

blame capcom for plot holes which are weird. and inconsistant stuff(i guess they forget about many things like the gba rpg which is uncannon since it interferes with oni3)

atleast you admitted to being a fanboy which takes guts.

Sep 21st, 2007 04:46 AM

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I don't care to admit I'm a fanboy of some characters, some characters are just too cool to not have your attachment to no matter how pathetic it may sound. For future reference characters I like are, Dante, Samanosuke, Ryu Hayabusa, Kratos, Nariko and War.

Sep 21st, 2007 06:46 PM