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The Surfer killed a Gladiator with no feats.

Cool.

Superman Prime wins.


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his surfboard ripped through Gladiator without any effort, why would I retract that statement?

Surfer's faster and far more powerful than any of them. it's not too difficult to see how he'd dispose of superman or a few GLs, and as for Flash, what's Flash going to do to someone who can even out speed him and can manipulate the very atoms of the suite that Flash wears, if need be?


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If silver surfer is fighting to his full potential he can beat nearly anybody. He does not have a limited set of powers as they just add new ones whwnever they feel like. I am a big thor fan but thor reallly should nnot stand a chance against an all out surfer. The surfer was even able to synthesize the odinforce. He has got like a millionways of killing almost anyone he fights. Even prime goes down to an all out surfer. As for rippiong through gls flashes and supermen, exiles surfer could do that. Superman no matter how many of him can never be a problem for the surfer, neither can any amount flashes. As for the gls he would have a little bit of trouble but considering this is an all out surfer he beats them as well.


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We don't know how powerful this Surfer was.

All we know is that he killed a couple of imperial guardians, who have absolutely no feats at all. This entire fight is based on speculation :/


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We don't know how powerful this Surfer was.

All we know is that he killed a couple of imperial guardians, who have absolutely no feats at all. This entire fight is based on speculation :/
Canon fodder you say?

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This version of exiles Surfer destroyed that universe's Earth including all it's inhabitants (which would include that Universe's Thor, Hulk, Sentry, etc.), stopped a full confidence Gladiator punch without moving an inch and sliced him in half, and had that Universe's Galactus running scared of him.

It's basically the MU-616 version of Surfer but instead of being a pacifist, he was a military scientist and was utterly ruthless. He also seemed to have a power level higher than MU-616 Surfer did, as a single energy blast was blowing right through the Shi-ar guardians like it was nothing.


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This version of exiles Surfer destroyed that universe's Earth including all it's inhabitants (which would include that Universe's Thor, Hulk, Sentry, etc.), stopped a full confidence Gladiator punch without moving an inch and sliced him in half, and had that Universe's Galactus running scared of him.

It's basically the MU-616 version of Surfer but instead of being a pacifist, he was a military scientist and was utterly ruthless. He also seemed to have a power level higher than MU-616 Surfer did, as a single energy blast was blowing right through the Shi-ar guardians like it was nothing.


And what feats do these guys have?

You have no proof that these guys are equal to their 616 counterparts.


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so we're basing it off of a Surfer who is out to kill, who clearly has powers that are at the least on par with a regular Surfer. it's why I'm using regular Surfer feats as well.


Surfer's told Gladiator before that he could kill him with but a thought. and Exiles proved it. deliciously.

furthermore, going back to the Thor >= Surfer argument, I'd say Surfer's way more durable than Thor as Surfer can take an onslaught from a Savage Hulk, without the slightest bit of trouble. the same cannot be said for Thor, not in the least.


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so we're basing it off of a Surfer who is out to kill, who clearly has powers that are at the least on par with a regular Surfer. it's why I'm using regular Surfer feats as well.


Surfer's told Gladiator before that he could kill him with but a thought. and Exiles proved it. deliciously.

furthermore, going back to the Thor >= Surfer argument, I'd say Surfer's way more durable than Thor as Surfer can take an onslaught from a Savage Hulk, without the slightest bit of trouble. the same cannot be said for Thor, not in the least.


Clearly? Please.

Once again, I ask for proof that these characters are as strong as their 616 counterparts.


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And what feats do these guys have?

You have no proof that these guys are equal to their 616 counterparts.

they rip apart with great aplomb smile.

come on, he spanked Galactus, give the man props! yes


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Clearly? Please.

Once again, I ask for proof that these characters are as strong as their 616 counterparts.

the only way to do that, if you won't look at the collateral damage he inflicted, is to have 616 characters face off against the Exiles characters that Surfer destroyed. since that's not happening, you may remain on the fence.

but, by the same token, you can't really give me any proof that SMP is say, more powerful than a pissed off Thor. 'cos they've not fought any benchmark characters yet smile.


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they rip apart with great aplomb smile.

come on, he spanked Galactus, give the man props! yes


What feats does this Galactus have?


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Alright I just looked through the comics of both characters again and Prime has more feats and he is basically more powerful than just an alternate Surfer. Also llagrok cleared it there is no info on how strong he is compared to the 616.


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The problem with alternate versions are that I like them too much, but it's true there is no proof on his power level.


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he created and rejuvenated worlds, that's at least on a par with something that 616 Surfer has done (when he brought a world to life, inadvertently whilst attempting suicide) smile.


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he created and rejuvenated worlds, that's at least on a par with something that 616 Surfer has done (when he brought a world to life, inadvertently whilst attempting suicide) smile.


Eeh, The Exiles Surfer from Exiles 87 and 88?

He simply attacked Galctus, that's pretty much it. He didn't even stand a chance against The Bronze Sabretooth....


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This version of exiles Surfer destroyed that universe's Earth including all it's inhabitants (which would include that Universe's Thor, Hulk, Sentry, etc.), stopped a full confidence Gladiator punch without moving an inch and sliced him in half, and had that Universe's Galactus running scared of him.

It's basically the MU-616 version of Surfer but instead of being a pacifist, he was a military scientist and was utterly ruthless. He also seemed to have a power level higher than MU-616 Surfer did, as a single energy blast was blowing right through the Shi-ar guardians like it was nothing.


Wait Big G was scared of surfer?


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he created and rejuvenated worlds, that's at least on a par with something that 616 Surfer has done (when he brought a world to life, inadvertently whilst attempting suicide) smile.
Is that proof that the universe is anything better or equal to 616?? Nope.

That's what Surfer gets : (please log in to view the image)


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Wait Big G was scared of surfer?


That version of Silver Surfer had Big G on the brink of death and he just barely escaped with his life.


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Also something of note - this version of the Surfer didn't weaken Gladiator first, his surfboard ripped through Gladiator without effort in one shot, cutting Gladiator in half.

This version of the Surfer's board was shaped like a giant razorblade, and given that Surfer's board can attain FTL speeds with incredible ease, you can imagine the damage it would do.


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