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Terryc250
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cytorrak is skyfather level, thanos is not

Feb 15th, 2008 07:49 PM

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cytorrak is skyfather level, thanos is not

are you sure?
got scans?

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Feb 15th, 2008 08:50 PM

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I think Cyttorak is slightly above Silver Surfer.

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Cyttorak is leagues above Silver Surfer.

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it was stated on cytorrak bio by marvel that he is equal to galactus.

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thanos aint beating no cytorrak, without bfring thanos would have a hard time with juggernaut.

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it was stated on cytorrak bio by marvel that he is equal to galactus.

He is?

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He is?

I know this but janus hate juggernaut sooooooo much that he will try to find a way to down play anything that involves hulks superior.

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Feb 16th, 2008 01:21 AM

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I know this but janus hate juggernaut sooooooo much that he will try to find a way to down play anything that involves hulks superior.

no, just that I find it funny how people can say ridiculous things such as "no physical force can hurt juggernaut", especially so when characters have pawned him in the past, using physical force. and also, as in the case here, when we can't even establish where on the pecking order Cyttorak stands...

is he "Skyfather", abstract, cosmic, something in-between... ? where and what evidence?

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Feb 16th, 2008 02:01 AM

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When has Juggernaut ever been pwned physically? I can only think of one occasion when Juggernaut was pwned period and that was the Onslaught saga. Being that Onslaught is a being of pure psychic energy, It's not hard to see why.

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When has Juggernaut ever been pwned physically? I can only think of one occasion when Juggernaut was pwned period and that was the Onslaught saga. Being that Onslaught is a being of pure psychic energy, It's not hard to see why.

Nimrod put him down with ease as well (Juggernaut). Cyttorak was supposed to be so powerful the Elders Deities had to imprison him in the Crimson Cosmos because he was going to destroy all reality. In recent comics he was pegged as being something in between a God and a Demon. Thanos loses this one if what was writtten about Cyttorak is true.

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Nimrod used a method that shut down the impulses from juggs brain effectively paralyzing him. It wasn't physical, It was a sonic attack or some sort.

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Feb 16th, 2008 04:25 AM

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Thanos jumps up and one punches Cy... shifty

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ATTENTION: Does anyone have ANY scans where Cyttorak displays great power? Because right now it seems to be nothing but rumors and hearsay.

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ATTENTION: Does anyone have ANY scans where Cyttorak displays great power? Because right now it seems to be nothing but rumors and hearsay.

He took a punch from Juggernaut, and got up a couple panels later... shifty

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He took a punch from Juggernaut, and got up a couple panels later...

It had to be PIS or CIS or both together, the writers obviously had no idea of what they were writing about, and that instance would not be the first time that a writer gets it wrong as many can attest to.

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Thanos jumps up and one punches Cy...

He just removes the Rubby from his hat......

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ATTENTION: Does anyone have ANY scans where Cyttorak displays great power? Because right now it seems to be nothing but rumors and hearsay.

I'm still waiting.

seems like Cyttorak is nothing more than another Mephisto/Nightmare.
and Nightmare's been whipped by Hulk before. last time they met, Hulk ripped his head off and took his horse (damn, sounds like sexual innuendo but trust me, wasn't anything like that

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also, all the showings of Cyttorak I've seen are ridiculously weak, Juggernaut beats him up, Nova breaks out of his bands Crimson Bands (powered directly by Cyttorak!), Hulk's broken out of Strange's version of the Crimson Bands too.

hopefully we get some scans soon.

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Feb 16th, 2008 11:40 AM

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When has Juggernaut ever been pwned physically? I can only think of one occasion when Juggernaut was pwned period and that was the Onslaught saga. Being that Onslaught is a being of pure psychic energy, It's not hard to see why.

nonsense.
Onslaught's armour and body was physical, he pawned Juggernaut PHYSICALLY (smacking him senseless and across the continent) as well as astrally.

War Hulk pawned him too, directly overpowering his "unstoppable" forward momentum.

WWH did the same, to the forward momentum, only he took a few panels rather than pages.

imo, the greatest feat Juggernaut's got is taking Thor's GodBlast... and smacking Cyttorak...

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Juggernaut was a psychic entity, go figure.

But if we're going to follow the Onslaught Saga, then Apocalypse and Cable one-shotted the Hulk and a couple of other übers.

Besides, how can the gem be inside Cain if it's actually located in outter space?

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