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Surfer was always a good deal more powerful than Thor, just that he is a pacifist and never unleashes his powers on anyone.

Current Surfer is far far beyond old Surfer, both in power and in resolve.

WWH was stated to be the most powerful Hulk yet, that means more powerful than the one that traded blows with Onslaught, meaning far more powerful than Thor.

according to Pak, WorldBreaker Hulk is pretty much > current Thor. I don't have a problem with that, for a character who The Beyonder claimed had an infinity of power similar to his own, it seems quite logical.


Idiots gotta read up on Thor

He stated himself that he doesn't possess any bloodlust and was incapable of summoning warrior madness state. He was too human now.

Tony stated that Thor is always holding back and only using one third of his strength, hence why the Thor clone was considered equally strong to Thor.

Tell me, how does it feel to know that Thor without his hammer/odinforce defeated an enemy the Surfer couldn't?


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Originally posted by janus77
Surfer was always a good deal more powerful than Thor, just that he is a pacifist and never unleashes his powers on anyone.

Current Surfer is far far beyond old Surfer, both in power and in resolve.

WWH was stated to be the most powerful Hulk yet, that means more powerful than the one that traded blows with Onslaught, meaning far more powerful than Thor.

according to Pak, WorldBreaker Hulk is pretty much > current Thor. I don't have a problem with that, for a character who The Beyonder claimed had an infinity of power similar to his own, it seems quite logical.


If current thor is king thor he with out a doubt more powerful then sufer. Hell thing thor is more powerful then odin...........who is easily more powerful then surfer or thanos for that matter.

who cares if he the most powerful hulk yet what does that have to do with the fact that if thor is king thor he vastly more powerful then hulk.

also Hulk trading blows with onslaught means he was stronger in pure strength not more powerful.

Pak? who the hell is that?

it called hyperbole.

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Can we close this thread now ? I believe blatant stupidity should be enough of a reason.


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1) World Breaker
2) WWH
3) Sentry
4) Black Bolt
5) Thor
6) Silver Surfer




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MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?

GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.

FACTS >OPINIONS


From all these "facts", how do you figure that Silver Surfer is # 6 on this list? Where in your "proof" does it state this, or are you just speculating?


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Idiots gotta read up on Thor

He stated himself that he doesn't possess any bloodlust and was incapable of summoning warrior madness state. He was too human now.

Tony stated that Thor is always holding back and only using one third of his strength, hence why the Thor clone was considered equally strong to Thor.

Tell me, how does it feel to know that Thor without his hammer/odinforce defeated an enemy the Surfer couldn't?

what do you mean "how does it feel"?
what? do I make money each time Surfer beats someone's arse down?

Thor might be more powerful now, but until I see some proof for this idea that he's somehow now more powerful than plain old Savage Hulk (with whom he always struggled and occasionally got beat down by) I'll continue to take the character for what he's been presented as... someone a cut below Surfer.

Surfer's tangling with Teneberous and Aegis, slightly above anything Thor has presented imo smile.


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what do you mean "how does it feel"?
what? do I make money each time Surfer beats someone's arse down?

Thor might be more powerful now, but until I see some proof for this idea that he's somehow now more powerful than plain old Savage Hulk (with whom he always struggled and occasionally got beat down by) I'll continue to take the character for what he's been presented as... someone a cut below Surfer.

Surfer's tangling with Teneberous and Aegis, slightly above anything Thor has presented imo smile.


actaully thor with out his hammer or god force has gone toe to toe with savage hulk in a brawl...........


Now were talking normal thor did that.

King thor who had his odin force stripped and all his abilities aside from strickly phyisicall ones and was not able to fly if not mistaken with one arm beat both savage hulk and thing at the same time............

king thor would wtf pwn hulk any version all over the place........

Hell odin made easy work of thanos and he was far from going all out.

King thor is above odin in power..............

and thanos would beat clearly any version of hulk..........

so this really aint a match if it king thor.

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1. Surfer was powerless at the time

2. Spidey rarely knows what he's talking about when it comes to such things

3. That was a Skrull

4. Obvious hyperbole (Hulk is technically a human being as well so this contradicts your own statements)

5. PIS

6. Writer interviews always say crazy shit (Superman can beat anyone, for example)


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actaully thor with out his hammer or god force has gone toe to toe with savage hulk in a brawl...........


Now were talking normal thor did that.

King thor who had his odin force stripped and all his abilities aside from strickly phyisicall ones and was not able to fly if not mistaken with one arm beat both savage hulk and thing at the same time............

king thor would wtf pwn hulk any version all over the place........

Hell odin made easy work of thanos and he was far from going all out.

King thor is above odin in power..............

and thanos would beat clearly any version of hulk..........

so this really aint a match if it king thor.

Odin did nothing of real consequence to Thanos, and he was trying to put Thanos down. whilst Thanos was just soaking it up and still on his feet. compare that to a real beat down, the one Galactus gave Thanos. making Thanos beg Galactus to stay his hand, for Thanos would +die+.

if that's the way you slant that, I'm not even bothering with engaging the rest of your 'facts' no expression.


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Originally posted by janus77
Odin did nothing of real consequence to Thanos, and he was trying to put Thanos down. whilst Thanos was just soaking it up and still on his feet. compare that to a real beat down, the one Galactus gave Thanos. making Thanos beg Galactus to stay his hand, for Thanos would +die+.

if that's the way you slant that, I'm not even bothering with engaging the rest of your 'facts' no expression.


slant? all odin did was blast thanos what three times and thanos went down. Hell thanos was powerless to do anything and that was far from odin full power or even his best attacks. he could have finished thanos in any way he wanted and there was nothing thanos could do.

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My mistake thanos did pritty well. Drax got beat in a single attack. Then thanos and surfer fought odin and surfer soon fell. Thanos did a pritty good job though he never really damaged Odin and he had help.

any ways now if odin can get out surfer while surfer has thanos on his side...........and king thor stronger then odin...........then that means hulk gets stomped

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Originally posted by janus77
what do you mean "how does it feel"?
what? do I make money each time Surfer beats someone's arse down?

Thor might be more powerful now, but until I see some proof for this idea that he's somehow now more powerful than plain old Savage Hulk (with whom he always struggled and occasionally got beat down by) I'll continue to take the character for what he's been presented as... someone a cut below Surfer.

Surfer's tangling with Teneberous and Aegis, slightly above anything Thor has presented imo smile.


lol, ignorance.

First off, Thor "tangled" with Exitar, whom I would put above Tenebrous or Aegis.

Second of all, the Silver Surfer never actually hurt them himself, he used a plot device. It's like trying to pass off Thanos' feats with the IG as something he would be capable of accomplishing on his own. You and FearOfLogic won't understand this, but the rest of us will.

Savage Hulk? Thor killed Durok the ****ing demolisher with no hammer or odinforce. It's been a while since I've seen the Surfer do anything nearly that impressive smile


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You have been repeatedly warned to end the trolling. I suggest you heed the advice.


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Originally posted by FearOfBlood
1) World Breaker
2) WWH
3) Sentry
4) Black Bolt
5) Thor
6) Silver Surfer




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MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?

GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.

FACTS >OPINIONS
Your interpetation of events make you look childish. Nothing that you posted is fact more like your opinion. Pak is not writing Thor he has no say in how powerful he is. Even if Hulk is the STRONGEST he is not the most powerful you should be banned for trying to force your so called facts on people and not even trying to debate it. He is not even in the top 20 most powerful beings in Marvel comics. P.S. Surfer would stomp him and Thor would split him in two.


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Nicely done. You ignore both the tiers thread and the Hulk thread, which you've been told to use before. This is beginning to try my patience, so quit making spam threads. This is the last nice suggestion you'll get on the matter.


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