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The closer he is the less able he'll be to get out of the way of any focussed blasts from Cyclops. Assuming Cyclops doesn't do any trick shots and assuming he decides not to do any wider area blasts. And then while avoiding Cyclops blasts, he'd manage to get close enough and land a vital blow, while still avoiding Cyclops blasts, perfectly (presumably) the first time?

A frontal assault wouldn't be a wise choice imo. I would assume Daredevil would have to come from the side or behind.

The terrain definitely suits him, but even if Cyclops doesn't go postal on the jungle, he can still clear a suitable area around him so that surprising him would be a challenge. Tactically if it's something I can come up with, it's something he can come up with.


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Hey, the augmentation wouldnt help much imo unless Cyke goes for the mega blast.erm

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nothing... alot of people (nobody in particular), seem to assume that cyclops can't use his beams to augment his h2h capabilities...
And its a shame. Cyclops is really a very dangerous fighter and tactical leader. It's just that I think Daredevil is smart enough to come in from behind and deliver a 1-hit KO.

Of course, as Xmarks pointed out, Cyclops could clear an area of the jungle around himself and remove Daredevil's advantage. He's definitely smart enough to do that.

Man, I can't believe Scott is getting so much love here, and I like that a lot! smile Makes me wonder what would happen if somebody inserted Wolverine instead of Daredevil. Would the outcome change?


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Hey, the augmentation wouldnt help much imo unless Cyke goes for the mega blast.erm

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cyclops>batman>daredevil... stick out tongue

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And its a shame. Cyclops is really a very dangerous fighter and tactical leader. It's just that I think Daredevil is smart enough to come in from behind and deliver a 1-hit KO.

Of course, as Xmarks pointed out, Cyclops could clear an area of the jungle around himself and remove Daredevil's advantage. He's definitely smart enough to do that.

Man, I can't believe Scott is getting so much love here, and I like that a lot! smile Makes me wonder what would happen if somebody inserted Wolverine instead of Daredevil. Would the outcome change?


lol, no idea...

i'd always seen cyke as the kind of guy who would fight using his blasts as an extra arm or leg... he has buttons in his gloves to open his visor, and the one he has now seems to work purely on whether he wants to open it or not...

if he manages to block a punch, why wouldnt he just blast his opponent rather than try to punch back?

he was accurate enough to break a guy's nose from distance, im sure he can blast someone hard enough to put them down without killing them...


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Hey, the augmentation wouldnt help much imo unless Cyke goes for the mega blast.erm
It doesn't need to be a megablast to be a wider area blast. Assuming he keeps the visor on, the width of his blasts are psionically determined, the visor only controls the height. And these days opening the visor doesn't seem to require the use of his hands, so it would be an independent weapon in addition to his (lesser than Daredevil obviously) but proficient hand to hand skills.

I don't really get the sequence of the scan though, Daredevil dodges Cyclops blast then manages to get back into the path of Cyclops blast the next panel to punch him... why didn't Cyclops just keep on blasting...


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cyclops>batman>daredevil... stick out tongue



lol, no idea...

i'd always seen cyke as the kind of guy who would fight using his blasts as an extra arm or leg... he has buttons in his gloves to open his visor, and the one he has now seems to work purely on whether he wants to open it or not...

if he manages to block a punch, why wouldnt he just blast his opponent rather than try to punch back?

he was accurate enough to break a guy's nose from distance, im sure he can blast someone hard enough to put them down without killing them...
That is precisely how I've always seen Cyke's HtH abilities; an integration of of striking and optic blasts. The guy is dangerous, and its about time everybody stopped using the 90s toon as a measure of him.


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cyclops>batman>daredevil... stick out tongue


Where did that come from? laughing


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lol, no idea...

i'd always seen cyke as the kind of guy who would fight using his blasts as an extra arm or leg... he has buttons in his gloves to open his visor, and the one he has now seems to work purely on whether he wants to open it or not...

if he manages to block a punch, why wouldnt he just blast his opponent rather than try to punch back?

he was accurate enough to break a guy's nose from distance, im sure he can blast someone hard enough to put them down without killing them...


I do agree that Cyclops is a surgeon with his optic blasts and is highly accurate. Much respect to him.


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That is precisely how I've always seen Cyke's HtH abilities; an integration of of striking and optic blasts. The guy is dangerous, and its about time everybody stopped using the 90s toon as a measure of him.


he was pretty awesome in the toon though... stick out tongue

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Where did that come from? laughing


just that batman and dd are likened so much, and in that crappy jla x-men crossover, cyclops knocked batman on his ass...

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I do agree that Cyclops is a surgeon with his optic blasts and is highly accurate. Much respect to him.


yup...

if dd can get close stealthily, he should take it, but cyke just has that ranged advantage, and in forum matches he's bloodlusted, so...


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It doesn't need to be a megablast to be a wider area blast. Assuming he keeps the visor on, the width of his blasts are psionically determined, the visor only controls the height. And these days opening the visor doesn't seem to require the use of his hands, so it would be an independent weapon in addition to his (lesser than Daredevil obviously) but proficient hand to hand skills.

I don't really get the sequence of the scan though, Daredevil dodges Cyclops blast then manages to get back into the path of Cyclops blast the next panel to punch him... why didn't Cyclops just keep on blasting...


True it can just be a wider blast, but with them startin out at different ends of the jungle, i dont think that would do much to better his chances. Up close, yes the wider blast would be much more difficult to evade and may indeed put DD down. I feel that because DD isnt unfamiliar with Cyke, he may just try to close the gap asap and get that stun/paralyze hit on him.

On the scan, DD used to billy club to close the gap while cyke was shooting. I guess he used his ninja speed to leap at him fast enough to get the hit.


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I would have to agree, up close and personal DD's taking it. Now in a ranged attack it surely favor's Cyclops. Lets not under estimate DD's close range speed. The guy has avoided close range gun fire on multiple occasions...


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just that batman and dd are likened so much, and in that crappy jla x-men crossover, cyclops knocked batman on his ass...


Oh yea? Lol. I didnt read that nor have i heard about that part. EVER, lol. Ouch.

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yup...

if dd can get close stealthily, he should take it, but cyke just has that ranged advantage, and in forum matches he's bloodlusted, so...


Are contestants bloodlusted in all battles? I thought it was only so if stated by the OP. If they are both bloodlusted here, and they start out as far apart as they do, then Cyke wins this easily. I dont think thats the case here though.


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Meh, regardless of bloodlust current Cyclops doesn't seem to have an aversion to killing if he deems it necessary, and a forest leveling blast wouldn't necessarily kill DD anyway...


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I would have to agree, up close and personal DD's taking it. Now in a ranged attack it surely favor's Cyclops. Lets not under estimate DD's close range speed. The guy has avoided close range gun fire on multiple occasions...


cyclops' accuracy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any thug/punisher... stick out tongue

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Oh yea? Lol. I didnt read that nor have i heard about that part. EVER, lol. Ouch.



Are contestants bloodlusted in all battles? I thought it was only so if stated by the OP. If they are both bloodlusted here, and they start out as far apart as they do, then Cyke wins this easily. I dont think thats the case here though.


i'd always assumed they were bloodlusted unless the maker said otherwise...


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i'd always assumed they were bloodlusted unless the maker said otherwise...
The rules actually say CIS applies iirc... everyone generally ignores that though.

Thor is Godblasting left and right.
Blackbolt is yodeling.
IW puts bubbles in everyone's brain while Johnny goes nova.
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The rules actually say CIS applies iirc... everyone generally ignores that though.

Thor is Godblasting left and right.
Blackbolt is yodeling.
IW puts bubbles in everyone's brain while Johnny goes nova.


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cyclops' accuracy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any thug/punisher... stick out tongue


Maybe, but Bullseye's accuracy>>>>>>>>>>>>Cyclops.shifty

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i'd always assumed they were bloodlusted unless the maker said otherwise...


Oh. I dont know. Maybe.erm


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They are not bloodlusted because they're both heroes...Besides, haven't I helped Cyclops out enough by making the fight during daylight ?


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Maybe, but Bullseye's accuracy>>>>>>>>>>>>Cyclops.shifty


maybe, but it could be argued that cyclops is literally second only to bullseye...

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