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Yes, yes, the conservative pastor Huckabee would totally drag McCain's ticket down by bringing all his grassroots supporters who continued to vote for him over McCain in states where Huckabee got 10-12% of the vote when he wasn't EVEN RUNNING anymore would totally suck for McCain.
Add to that those pesky evangelicals in the country (100 million, at last count or 1/3 of the country) and we're talking about a real problem for McCain, youbetcha.
I hope and pray that he picks the Huck. If for nothing else than the fact that we'd get some more "Chuck Norris approved" campaign ads.
He'd since 1/3rd of the country and alienate the other 2/3rds. None of the liberal/moderate republicans will support him and no independent voters or "turncoat" democrats will. I guarantee that he will lose horribly if he chooses Huckabee.
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False.
None of those independants or moderate republicans will leave because they don't want liberal Obama. They like McCain.
McCain is actually very conservative, if you look at his voting record on marriage and abortion. He's also already said he'd appoint strict judges who won't legsilate from the bench. Huckabee adds nothing to his campaign that he doesn't already have (except reasurrance for evangelicals), so why would the independants and moderates leave?
With his position on Iraq being "full steam ahead", if a moderate or independant has already decided that they still want to vote for him, I don't see where Huckabee would change their mind to voting for the liberal lawyer from Chicago who has no experience on the world stage.
Huckabee helps that campaign, as far as I can see.
Never said they will vote Obama, no way in hell will that happen. I think many will abstain from the election entirely. Nothing about policies but Huckabee is so extreme and has made such absurd comments that will alienate anyone who isn't uber-conservative like "We need to change the constitution to be in line with the bible" and similar things. Kiss all non-fundamentalist republicans goodbye.
It could be a mistake to choose someone who so clearly highlights McCain's weaknesses; but considering an increase in apathy and antipathy from white women voters for Obama it may be a wise move.
The Sarah Palin bit in particular gave me a chuckle. (please log in to view the image)
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Well, no biggie. He's being counted out by all major news outlets, just as he was in the primary.
I think it's foolish, as he has a large group of supporters, many of whom continued to vote for him over McCain in elections when he had no chance and even after he was out of the race!
Certainly it would help to consolidate the evangelical vote and give McCain freedom to worry about keeping the independents. With Huck, he wouldn't have to do the selling to the evangelicals, they'd get the point.
It also seems to me a slight bias against that voting bloc/community that the media ignores Huckabee for VP, because the media wants him to pick anybody else so that he won't get them all and Obama will win.
Or there's the fact that McCain knows he won't win over any independents or moderate Democrats with an evangelical Baptist minister Arkansan Governor. Sure, it'd help him with the rank and file Republicans, but McCain won't win on that alone.
Putting Huckabee on the ticket won't leave McCain "free" to court independents, it will drive them away.
And the liberal bias in media is a myth.
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Maybe he'd lose some independents, but there are plenty of them that just plain won't vote for Obama, due to lack of experience and bad policies/voting history. (or paying attention to things like the Rev. Wright stuff, general dissatisfaction with the candidate)
So maybe those particular independents wouldn't vote for McCain, but they might stay home. (some would still support him)
On the other hand, he'd gain the full evangelical vote, and take the election like Bush did in 2004, even with movies in theatres, music videos on TV, and every known face in the world calling for votes for Kerry.
Again, just my opinion.
Huckabee would change it back to a typical conservative republican v.s. liberal democrat election...and it'd be tight, but my wager is that conservatives would win.
Romney would help out in the northeast, Michigan, and he's Mormon so that does help in the west. He's been a Governor which serves as relatively good experience compared to most Senators, and he's young.
But he's a snake, too.
When put up against Huckabee, Romney would more likely help with a swing state like Michigan and some New England states as well. And since McCain opted to raise money publicly he'll need more financial help, and that's where Romney, who is well off, would be more than happy to contribute.
Sorry about the double post. I realized my original needed a little more relevance.
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