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Originally posted by Mr Master
Same crap on both sides,
if Mxy is resistant to Jaspers' powers,
then Jaspers is resistant to Mxy's powers as well.

So no one is teleporting anyone, anywhere.

Jaspers couldn't be hurt by the Fury, but the Fury still teleported him. Same thing will go here. Unless Jaspers actively tries to stop being teleported.

Since they fight ten matches in KMC, i'm seeing the first going to mxy due to teleportation and then the next 9 being stalemates because Jaspers would catch on. So I guess that's some sort of victory on Mxy's part.


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Mxy has shown to be able to work with Nothing. Jaspers cannot say the same thing. Nothingness for the win.


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Originally posted by fangirl101

Mxy has shown the Greater reality manipulation powers and the greater effect.

False.
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Originally posted by fangirl101

jaspers has never wiped away all reality.

Inconsequential.

Merlin manipulated the life force of the ENTIRE Omniverse.

All that power, over ALL Creation,
meant nothing to 238 Jaspers who thwarted Merlin's absolute Omniversal power.
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Originally posted by fangirl101

He has never beaten a being on par with the spectre fully backed.

You mean when Mxy defeated Spectre by cracking a planet over his head?

laughing ... "Wrath of God?" ... what a joke.
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He has never beaten a being like the alien entity as mxy has.

Again, power over all creation means nothing.

238 Jaspers > matrix/Merlin

616 Jaspers >>> 238 Jaspers.
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Originally posted by fangirl101

saying jaspers hasn't been defeated isn't true,
since he's been dead and didn't ressurect himself.

Jaspers was killed by his personal plot device.

But the Omniversal power (over all creation) of Melin's was nothing to Jaspers.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
You mean when Mxy defeated Spectre by cracking a planet over his head?

"Wrath of God?" ... what a joke.
More like when Emperor Joker [a n00b with Mxy's power] literally replaced Spectre - then imprisoned him. smile

And the wrath of God is no joke - Mxy's just that powerful. smile


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Originally posted by Mr Master False.Inconsequential.Merlin manipulated the life force of the ENTIRE Omniverse.All that power, over ALL Creation, meant nothing to 238 Jaspers who thwarted Merlin's absolute Omniversal power.You mean when Mxy defeated Spectre by cracking a planet over his head?laughing ... "Wrath of God?"_ ... what a joke._Again, power over all creation means nothing.238 Jaspers > matrix/Merlin616 Jaspers >>> 238 Jaspers._Jaspers was killed by his personal plot device.But the Omniversal power (over all creation) of Melin's was nothing to Jaspers.
Merlyn never showed he had the power over all the omniverse for it's total destruction. he used the life force to make a machine that could obliterate universes at a time. a bit different than all encompassing power. belittling the spectre doesn't change who he is or mxy's feat. we dont' know how the planet was changed in mxy's hand. U using 238 jaspers has NOTHING to do with merlyn and 616 jaspers. Mxy has shown that he can defeat Undefeatable beings. If you believe jaspers is that, then he still would be beaten by mxy who has the feat of doing so.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Jaspers couldn't be hurt by the Fury, but the Fury still teleported him.
Same thing will go here.

I disagree.

Fury was created to resist Jaspers' power,
on top of that, Fury's power set is to figure out your weakness,
on top of that, he only knew of a location where there was un-space,
because the Fury was there when his universe was erased.

Those are stipulations friend,
stipulations that do NOT relate to Mxy.


Again, matrix/Merlin < 238 Jaspers

616 Jaspers > 238 Jaspers.

The Fury was Jaspers' plot device.
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Unless Jaspers actively tries to stop being teleported.

Nah, Jaspers is just gonna stand there and wait to be teleported.

That's a joke.
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Since they fight ten matches in KMC, i'm seeing the first going to mxy due to teleportation and then the next 9 being stalemates because Jaspers would catch on. So I guess that's some sort of victory on Mxy's part.

I disagree.

It's a stalemate.


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Originally posted by Galan007

More like when Emperor Joker [a n00b with Mxy's power]
literally replaced Spectre - then imprisoned him.

Hey that's cool.

Merlin with power over all creation was below 238 Jaspers.

616 Jaspers > 238 Jaspers.

Nice feats on both sides. smile
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Originally posted by Galan007

And the wrath of God is no joke - Mxy's just that powerful.

Cool, matrix/Merlin was no joke, Jaspers (238) was just that powerful as well. big grin


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I disagree.

Fury was created to resist Jaspers' power,
on top of that, Fury's power set is to figure out your weakness,
on top of that, he only knew of a location where there was un-space,
because the Fury was there when his universe was erased.

Those are stipulations friend,
stipulations that do NOT relate to Mxy.

Well it won't be hard for mxy to locate un-space since he has cosmic senses. Actually though I agree he may have trouble figuring out Jasper's weakness, but he has all eternity to get it right. As for resisting his powers, you've already said he can do so since you think he stalemates.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Hey that's cool.
I wasn't comparing them. Just reminding you that even a novice with Mxy's power was able to beat one of the most powerful characters in DC, with extreme ease.


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Originally posted by fangirl101

Merlyn never showed he had the power over all the omniverse for it's total destruction.
he used the life force to make a machine that could obliterate universes at a time.
a bit different than all encompassing power.

And the fallacies based on ignorance have started,

I was wondering how long it would take.


The truth.

Merlin created Otherworld from scratch. (a magical Universe)
Merlin created the Starlight Citadel. (an Omniversal Nexus)
Merlin created the Celestial Nullifier. (can destroy any Universe in the entire Omniverse)

The way this is possible,
is because Merlin fused the life-force of the entire Omniverse into individual tiny crystals,
each crystal representing the life-force of an entire Universe.

Simply place a crystal in the Celestial Nullifier, crystal is crushed, no more Universe.


All encompassing power in the absolute sense.
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Originally posted by fangirl101

belittling the spectre doesn't change who he is or mxy's feat.
we dont' know how the planet was changed in mxy's hand.

It's not my intention to nip pick,
but you do it in every single thread,
I thought I might oblige.
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Originally posted by fangirl101

U using 238 jaspers has NOTHING to do with merlyn and 616 jaspers.

Only that 238 Jaspers is a FAR weaker counter-part to 616 Jaspers..

238 Jaspers >>> matrix/Merlin

616 Jaspers >>> 238 Jaspers
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Originally posted by fangirl101

Mxy has shown that he can defeat Undefeatable beings. If you believe jaspers is that, then he still would be beaten by mxy who has the feat of doing so.

Whatever you say.


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Originally posted by King Kandy
Jaspers couldn't be hurt by the Fury, but the Fury still teleported him. Same thing will go here. Unless Jaspers actively tries to stop being teleported.

Since they fight ten matches in KMC, i'm seeing the first going to mxy due to teleportation and then the next 9 being stalemates because Jaspers would catch on. So I guess that's some sort of victory on Mxy's part.
I'd tend to agree. thumb up

Creating from nothingness, is an obvious advantage Mxy has here. Remove Jaspers from his sketchboard [something Mxy is well capable of], and he's all but powerless. But as you said, that tactic may not work more than once. So Mxy probably takes 1 - and the other 9 = stalemate.


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Originally posted by King Kandy

Well it won't be hard for mxy to locate un-space since he has cosmic senses.

"Un-Space" is not an empty are of space awaiting birth.

"Un-Space" is the aftermath of universal nullification.

So he would need to find a precise location that has been nullified.
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Actually though I agree he may have trouble figuring out Jasper's weakness,
but he has all eternity to get it right.

If they stalemate, they cancel each other out.
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As for resisting his powers,
you've already said he can do so since you think he stalemates.

Same goes for Mxy.

Which is why it's a stalemate.


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Originally posted by Galan007

I wasn't comparing them.
Just reminding you that even a novice with Mxy's power was able to beat one of the most powerful characters in DC, with extreme ease.

Cool, I'm entertaining myself with fangirl,
so don't take to heart what I say against Spectre.

On the other hand,
novice or not, that's DC's problem.

In Marvel, one of the most powerful being in the Omniverse,
with power over the all Time/Space,
couldn't do anything to 238 Jaspers,
and as we know, that's the far weaker version.

So again,
they both have high end uberdiculous feats,
which is why I said from the beginning ... stalemate.


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If Fury had been 100% immune to Jaspers and not teleported him, the fight would have been an eternal stalemate.


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Originally posted by Galan007

Creating from nothingness, is an obvious advantage Mxy has here.

I don't see how that makes any difference at all.

This is a battle, not a creation contest.
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Remove Jaspers from his sketchboard [something Mxy is well capable of],
and he's all but powerless.

That's so simple to write.

But in reality,
there's no evidence of any kind that Mxy would be able to do that to Jaspers.
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But as you said, that tactic may not work more than once.
So Mxy probably takes 1 - and the other 9 = stalemate.

Based on that self-created scenario, sure.

But actually, Jaspers can't do anything to Mxy,
and Mxy can't do anything to Jaspers.

Stalemate! thumb up


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Originally posted by Mr Master And the fallacies based on ignorance have started,I was wondering how long it would take.The truth.Merlin created Otherworld from scratch. (a magical Universe)Merlin created the Starlight Citadel. (an Omniversal Nexus)Merlin created the Celestial Nullifier. (can destroy any Universe in the entire Omniverse)The way this is possible,is because Merlin fused the life-force of the entire Omniverse into individual tiny crystals,each crystal representing the life-force of an entire Universe.Simply place a crystal in the Celestial Nullifier, crystal is crushed, no more Universe.All encompassing power in the absolute sense._It's not my intention to nip pick,but you do it in every single thread,I thought I might oblige._Only that 238 Jaspers is a FAR weaker counter-part to 616 Jaspers..238 Jaspers >>> matrix/Merlin616 Jaspers >>> 238 Jaspers_Whatever you say.

So all of those feats you have for merlyn have you thinkin he's anywhere near mxy or spectre's power level? OMG. None of those feats scream omniversal destructive power or creative power. just manipulation.

What ever the relation jaspers has to his other counter part doesn't really weigh in on this fight. Since merlyn is less than mxy and the spectre and the Ultimator. All of whom I've talking about. Let's see jaspers beat the alient entity or the LT and then I'd say you have a real fight. You condesend in every single thread, but I still oblige a good argument.

Mxy's power has warped the Spectre. Mxy himself has entrapped the Ultimator. And he's literally wiped the page clean of anything. How would MJJ react to that?

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Originally posted by Mr Master
In Marvel, one of the most powerful being in the Omniverse,
with power over the all Time/Space,
couldn't do anything to 238 Jaspers,
and as we know, that's the far weaker version.
I don't follow. A device Merlin created [the CN], was responsible for wiping out the 238 universe, as well as that universe's version of Jaspers.

So Merlin was > 238 Jaspers [in a manner of speaking].


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Originally posted by King Kandy

If Fury had been 100% immune to Jaspers and not teleported him,
the fight would have been an eternal stalemate.

Right, but neither of them were 100% immune to each other,
this is why Fury was even able to pull off the bfr.

If two combatants are equally matched,
they cancel each other's powers out,
hence, an eternal stalemate as you mentioned.


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Right, but neither of them were 100% immune to each other,
this is why Fury was even able to pull off the bfr.

If two combatants are equally matched,
they cancel each other's powers out,
hence, an eternal stalemate as you mentioned.

My point: It's an eternal stalemate only until one of them figures out an exploitable weakness in the other, then it's anyone's game.


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I don't see how that makes any difference at all.
??

Once in unspace, one of them would be at full power - while the other would not. Quite a big difference, no?

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But in reality,
there's no evidence of any kind that Mxy would be able to do that to Jaspers.
Not surprising. They are different characters, from different companies.

So naturally there's no direct evidence that Mxy can affect Jaspers. I'm just going by what each character has done, or is capable of doing. smile

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But actually, Jaspers can't do anything to Mxy,
and Mxy can't do anything to Jaspers.
In your opinion. But in my opinion, Mxy could affect Jaspers [once, at least].

Entropy dump for the initial win! stick out tongue


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