No, there isn't. But it's commonly known that Earth 51 (which is what I think Wildstorm is in DC continuity) is its own multiverse, so it's possible.
In this fight, Solar until proven otherwise. I don't think anyone has questioned that. But id and I were just discussing the extent of Void's powers (and the Wheel's), aside from the thread itself.
Digi pretty much covered it well. In the comic arc, the threat was always mentioned in a singular way. Will our universe survive, this universe will come to an end….etc. However the purpose of the arc, was to reboot Wildstorm in its entirety, which happens to take place in a multiverse. To me its confusing.
Its not out of the question to say, The Void can not apply trans-universal powers. Since both Solar and the Void share one of the biggest feats. And that was the brief mergence of Valiant/Wildstorm in Deathmate.
Digi mentions the Wheel of Creation, the Void being 1/3 rd of the Wheel. I cant factor in, the Wheel. Because we don’t know the scope of how the Void power would be magnified. Will it exceed what she accomplished Captain Atom: Armageddon? And how much? to the point of effecting Wildsotrom along with KC, DC mainstream, Vertigo etc…and other verses at once?
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I said in the strictest sense. And if the Source part isn't canon, that pretty much invalidates the reason for the entire story. Because if that wasn't the Source, how did it block the Source from Takion, etc?
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Not denying the fact that Void posseses such powers, however what im trying to point out that Void in itself is subject to human weakness, teh mental ones due to its host, this is why its been manipulated in more than a few occasions.. I think someone with high tp, energy man. or magic in a herald class could potentially take her out by the manipulation of those weakness... Its totally out of char. for her to pull out a reboot attack less we talking about total bloodlust...
In both time she's affected something of universal stat, it was not her intirely.. One was w/ Solar and we know the extent of his power, whose to say a good portion of it was of Solar's energy. Then the wildstorm reboot, were part of it was bonded to Capt. Atom.. Not trying to undermined her powers levels just stating that we've really never seen her affecting something of that scale w/ just her as the lone source.. Just my 2 cents..
Well She has stated over the time, that she servers a much greater power. You could be right.
Jenny Quantum could not do a thing and her power is arguably above the Herald Class. The Doctor could not do a thing, flat out admitted defeat, same deal his power is regarded above the Herald Rank. So I really there is significant evidence, that validate the Void being regarded as a Cosmic Force.
The first time, can be argued I give you that.
However the reboot, was all Void. Captain Atom was a living time bomb, because he had half of her power imbedded in him. When the Void took back her powers, she felt complete and went of to reboot the Wildstorm verse. So no I disagree on this account.
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Both really never tried exploiting said so weakness.. Ie.. Like how Dane pulled Adriana's essence and controlled her from teh inside, similar way how Tapestry controlled her as well, infact both her and providence, then shut her off.. I can see both the doctor and Jenny able to replicate this..
Never stated she was not..
Righ Capt. was a living Bomb due to part of Void and i bet also his Quantum powers, powers that created a universe before.. Was it not his powers w/ Void that ended Wildstorm?
I am not denying she has gotten handled before. So has Solar. And I agree, if you take the average showings, the Void does not seem impressive. However as of now, as of the Void leaving Spartan and joining a new Host. The Void seems to be operating on higher levels of power.
And its not like, the Void cant defend herself from such attacks. In case most members don’t know, her powers are psionic/quantum energy base. She truly has a power set to contest many.
That why she states in CA: Armageddon : your trying to think of some desperate maneuver. Some way to stop me. To stop the inevitable. Don’t bother and don’t worry. Its all going start again.
^ She was addressing everyone, or at the vary least the characters onboard the Ship.
No. She used her powers, I am absolutely certain of that. Her ability to manipulate quantum energy has bin known since wildcats vol 1.
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After Apollo's HV hits Capt. it unbalance his quantum energies
and sets off a reaction w/ the void's fragment turnin it into
a universal bomb but then Void happened and re-absorb the fragment.
Now as i recall, the fragment that Void remove was still glowing w/
Capt's quantum energy before and during reabsorbtion and i think she even says
so herself, she's become that bomb. I'll see if i can find some scan..
Make's it even better for her to control Capt's quantum powers..
Maybe so but again like i said in my earlier post (weakness) she's a pawn to someone way below herald class and if you consider her tussle w/ providence as a display of higher level of power, am not impressed..
No she cannot, all you need is look at past and present appearances..
Precog and spacial/time powers is what i've seen..
It is the Void’s power that was causing the unbalance in Capt. A. And when its removed, Capt. A was no longer a threat. You will not find, any statement of Void absorbing powers of the Atom, because that is not the cause of the problem. You will find statements of her seeking her part of her powers to become whole.
We already went through this, here let me be more clear so you can get a better picture. Adrianna is not Nikola, you dig jack?
And the comic states, the Void manipulates both Quantum and Psi energies. That is why she is sought out. Not just for teleportation/pre-cog.
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Makes no diff. they are but just a host to the power.. There is no change..
How far have you fallowed this new Void? Have you fallowed the Tao of Tao arc (most current)? And i was arguing current not Adrianna.. Still makes no diff. the weakness still there prone to psi, energy and magic... I suggest you read it..
What comics? I've been freakin fallowing Wildcats and most wildstorm arc (armaggeddon, end) and i've never seen her tp resist, attack anyone or affect quantum field...
more like Capt. A unbalance energies reacted to the fragment, this is why he said "a reaction is happening inside of me".. Before that he was no treat, just that teh fragment is dislodge in him but could potentially react to his energies...
Right so we just disregard the fragment glowing of Capt. energies?
Everything does not have to be narrated to show that such and such happened.. The orb of power absorbs ambient energies, thats why the fragment glowed like that.. Compare Void and the fragment. Both are same of similar material, one silver the other one glowed yellow which mean Capt. A quantum powers is in that fragment..
You are ranting over specific short coming from a previous host. And disregard the fact, that in current times its stated on panel that the Voids powers have grown. I wish you would stop cherry picking events, because when it was all said and done. Not Quantum Jenny or The Doctor could do a thing to the Void.
And the problem lies in your bad memory. Read the sourcebook it states the Void wields psionic powers. Read V1 #9. It states orbs of power wield cosmic energy to manipulate quantum fields.
Yes the fragment provoked the Atoms reaction. And what happened when the fragment was removed? Oh right, no more reaction!
Here let me drop a bit of ignored information from you. When the Voids, fragment was embedded in Atom. It turned gold “GASP”.
Look she just pulled the vary cause of the problem, which is exactly what the void intended to do. Which is specifically stated.
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1.) No im not.. Nikola, the current Void has been mindraped by Tao (far less than a herald) and still a thrall to him.. her energies (Nikola) has been drain to almost nothing, and it seems that cont. portin drains her more, she nearly got pawned by providence.. All current showings, How is this operating at higher level than before?
2.) that contradicts her showings.. Less its the precogg part (quess that is part psionic and time powers).. sourcebook is not really a good source of info w/ out some form of evidence that is depected from it..
3.)Right because the fragment absorbs energies...
4.)Right and the fragment she absorbs that contained a portion of
Capt. A quantum powers help...
Lets just leave it at agree to disagree on the universal destructive powers of void. but not her weakness, shes been controlled/merged/magically affected/drained both the past and current host..
1) TAO, is Wildstorms version of Lex. The guy carries insane feats, for being powerless character to drive the plot.
2) The source book was quoted in Wildstorms questionnaire by the vary author in Wildstorm v1.
3 and 4) the fragment absorbs energy, your view right? Issue 6 states, Captain Atom retains the lions share of the Voids power. On top of the fact, that the Void’s energy is considerably higher then before. The fragment only disrupted Atom’s being. What good is the fragment of the void, when the Void never willfully absorbed Atoms powers. I mean you see it on paper, fracture out, disruption gone.
Actually now that I re-read the arc. I did find evidence that it threaten several universes (which make sense, since it’s the cause of the reboot.) But if you want to agree to disagree, thats fine. At peak levels she has shown that nothing short then a cosmic force would be needed to intervene.
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Feb 21st, 2009 04:10 AM
Because if that wasn't the Source, how did it block the Source from Takion, etc?
