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Kirikaze Fuuma
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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
The Tenma Gou Zankuu was only used on a submarine, so it is a fairly unknown move in terms of limitations, and the TGZ is a cutting attack, like the KKRZ.

Seriously, I do not know why it is so hard for people to accept SF characters are so powerful.

Gill can return to life indefinately, rain meteors, and split the ocean with a gesture.

Bison has showings of taking nuclear weapons, and vaporising villages by powering up.

Gouki has shattered islands, kicked sunken ships in half, and split a mountain.

Shit, even a mid-tier like Balrog can kill an elephant with a single punch.


another "cutting technique" excuse. laughing out loud

when did TGZ is a cutting technique? it creates an explosion not a cut. and one of his energy ball is as strong as his fist.

bison tanking a nuclear weapon in non-canon ending where the psycho drives explodes but he is still alive. funny isn't it? and more non canon ending where Dan trsahed him, Ken one shot him with a shoryuken, E-honda headbutt him then he is explodes, Fei long kick the **** out of him. oh, but it's a self destruct technique right?

it was stated that Balrog killed one of dhalsim's elephant. but it was never stated with what kind of attack. how many punches, etc.


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Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
because Orochi is featless? laughing out loud
Well... I'm not gonna argue wit you about why a Capcom dude can beat an SNK guy I know it aint gonna go anywhere. I would gladly enter into a debate wit most others about the subject, but not you.

So, whatever man.


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And also, Official statements from the SFEC say that "he destroyed his island". If he had used his mountain splittin' move to destroy the island, they woulda said it. They say what moves he used for his other feats. Google "Akuma destroys island wit a punch and erbody will say the same thing."

"This guy is a beast!"

This is the main reason you got Akuma beatin' Sephiroth by ridiculous margins on Final Fantasy dedicated forums. It's all facts and to deny it for the sake of others makes a person fanboi or a hater.


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Kirikaze Fuuma
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Well... I'm not gonna argue wit you about why a Capcom dude can beat an SNK guy I know it aint gonna go anywhere. I would gladly enter into a debate wit most others about the subject, but not you.

So, whatever man.


alright. whatever you want. you can live in your world where "all capcom defeat all SNK"


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Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
alright. whatever you want. you can live in your world where "all capcom defeat all SNK"
You gotta be kiddin me. I have gave SNK dudes dozens of draws and victories, cuz I'm real like that. Unlike you.

If they don't have the feats like SF caharcters do, then they don't have the feats, lets stop bein' fanbois and be real.


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You gotta be kiddin me. I have gave SNK dudes dozens of draws and victories, cuz I'm real like that. Unlike you.

If they don't have the feats like SF caharcters do, then they don't have the feats, lets stop bein' fanbois and be real.


if you think I'm SNK fanboy then you are wrong. I can tell you some of the match where capcom will win against SNK. you guys worships feats more than anything else and forget about the logic just like this Orochi.


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if you think I'm SNK fanboy then you are wrong.
You can say that but where is the proof?

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I can tell you some of the match where capcom will win against SNK. you guys worships feats more than anything else and forget about the logic just like this Orochi.
I bet I can name more threads where I say Capcom guys lose then you can name SNK guys who lose.

We use facts, y'all just use A>B>C logic and who ever you like more. It is impossible to make a coherent argument about why Orochi could beat Akuma or Ganon for that matter. He hasn't done anything. basically all y'all sayin' is, "Orochi wins cuz he's Orochi. That's not cool.


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Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
another "cutting technique" excuse. laughing out loud

when did TGZ is a cutting technique? it creates an explosion not a cut. and one of his energy ball is as strong as his fist.

bison tanking a nuclear weapon in non-canon ending where the psycho drives explodes but he is still alive. funny isn't it? and more non canon ending where Dan trsahed him, Ken one shot him with a shoryuken, E-honda headbutt him then he is explodes, Fei long kick the **** out of him. oh, but it's a self destruct technique right?

it was stated that Balrog killed one of dhalsim's elephant. but it was never stated with what kind of attack. how many punches, etc.
1. Looking at it, you are right.

2. His Hadoukens had burning damage in the anime, not shattering. Also, you are picking at straws, it is a plot inconsistency, Superman Prime has moved planets at FTL speeds, yet in his fights not even a city gets destroyed. That does not mean the previous feat should be disregarded.

3. Was the PD shown to explode? And beating people is not a feat.

4. It was stated to be his Gigaton Punch, and it was only one.


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he has it in SF4 dosn't he? SF4 took place a few months after SF2 which took place 3 years after SFA2. he is said to be PERFECTING the move at the end of SF3.

do the math.

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he has it in SF4 dosn't he? SF4 took place a few months after SF2 which took place 3 years after SFA2. he is said to be PERFECTING the move at the end of SF3.

do the math.
No, he does not have it in SF4.

And you're speculating.


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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Looking at it, you are right.

2. His Hadoukens had burning damage in the anime, not shattering. Also, you are picking at straws, it is a plot inconsistency, Superman Prime has moved planets at FTL speeds, yet in his fights not even a city gets destroyed. That does not mean the previous feat should be disregarded.

3. Was the PD shown to explode? And beating people is not a feat.

4. It was stated to be his Gigaton Punch, and it was only one.


burning damage you mean when he did shakunetsu hadouken. not regular hadouken.

the entire base was exploded. I'll be surprised if psycho drive didn't explode with 10 bombs while a single bomb destroyed it. but if they killed Bison with their regular moves, does it mean that their power is stronger than a nuke caused by 10 bombs?

ok then.


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Ryu's better then Sub-Zero since when ?

also which Sub-Zero are we using theres been two of them so far in the games.


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Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
burning damage you mean when he did shakunetsu hadouken. not regular hadouken.

the entire base was exploded. I'll be surprised if psycho drive didn't explode with 10 bombs while a single bomb destroyed it. but if they killed Bison with their regular moves, does it mean that their power is stronger than a nuke caused by 10 bombs?

ok then.
True, can you point out when his regular Hadouken hit anything though?

And btw, you need to stop trying to nitpick Gouki's feats just because there is not much collateral damage in his fights, Superman Prime is a planet mover at FTL speeds, he does not destroy cities in fights, should we disreguard the previous feat?

The Psycho Drive exploded in every other ending did it not? And we never see the PD explode in the nuke one.


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Ryu's better then Sub-Zero since when ?

also which Sub-Zero are we using theres been two of them so far in the games.
Always.


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Bison did survive an A bomb sized explosion in canon. And even had enough strength to fight Rose and almost win, and she's better than Ryu.

The guy is pretty much immortal wit the Drive, as stated numerous times.


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Ryu's reading a book. Sub-Zero comes charging at Ryu and his fist KO's Sub-Zero. Ryu looks away from the book and looks down at Sub-Zero and says "Did I miss something?"


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Bison did survive an A bomb sized explosion in canon. And even had enough strength to fight Rose and almost win, and she's better than Ryu.

The guy is pretty much immortal wit the Drive, as stated numerous times.
Wait, he actually did it in the story?


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Ryu's better then Sub-Zero since when ?

also which Sub-Zero are we using theres been two of them so far in the games.


Since Ryu started fighting.

Most likely the younger. The older isn't Sub-Zero anymore, and the thread creator hasn't specified, so we assume it's the younger who is Sub-Zero


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Wait, he actually did it in the story?
Yup, after he got blown up by Charlie and the gang, he managed to survive, where he confronted Rose and almost killed her.

Bison's a beast, yo.


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No, he does not have it in SF4. And you're speculating.

so are you, genius wink

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