I think that's what makes him special.
KOEI made him such a mysterious character in DW5.
But no one can deny the fact that his stats are equal to Lu Bu's.
Anyway, back on topic.
I think Tadakatsu takes this. If he was 29 like Lu Bu, he would omfgwtfpwn Lu Bu, with nary a scratch.
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How would Tada at 29 beat Lu Bu when he has done nothing in game that puts him at his level and we have no idea how he was at 29? Lu Bu nails him between the eyes with an arrow from like 100 yards.
Lu Bu didn't use any arrows in the games
Maybe historically he could wield a bow, but in the games we haven't seen this to warrant it as proof.
Of course, logically speaking, Tadakatsu would be at his peak if he were in his prime.
Younger means faster and stronger. In the games, it is noticable that Tadakatsu is slower than Lu Bu due to his old age.
Maybe if he was also 29 in the games, it would be a different story.
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Uhh, yes I can, because anyone maxed out can be that strong...
And it's gameplay rather than fact...
And yes, it said in his profile that Lu Bu was a skilled archer (even on horseback), And any character can use a bow as of DW4, although none have the prodigious skills like Huang Zhong, Xiahou Yuan or Ina (Heck, even Sun Shan Xiang from DW6 has beyond the average skill with the bow).
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Lu Bu ended a war with one arrow and a halberd. Everyone used one as of DW3 actually, but Lu Bu was known to be just as skilled, he just didn't use a bow all the time because it wasn't his style.
I agree on your point about stats and stuff though.
Dynasty tactics two.
Age has nothing to do with his speed. Hell Huang Zhong should be stupidly slow but he isn't, so should Sun Jian, Yoshiro. The Qiao sisters should be super fast.
His DW3 form was the hardest imo, especially when its the first DW game you ever played. Yuan Shao tells you not to pursue Lu Bu and you think you're the shit because you pwned some Yellow Turbans before this battle and a few officers on this one so you face him anyway to prove how bad ass you are at this game...then you fail...
In DW3 4 & 5, Lu Bu at Hu Lao can decimate a base character in 2 to 3 hits. If it's your first time, your likely to stare at the screen for 5 minutes, blinking a little, but otherwise motionless, finally you say "What the hell just happened? I only saw the guy for like, 1 second and got skinned!? WHAT BULLSHIT IS THIS!!!" That was my reaction to my first experience with Lu Bu using a new character. The guy is a noob slayer extrodinare, he'd make you repeat the Yellow Turban campaign a dozen or 3 times just to build EXP, and make you utterly HATE Zhang Jiao's voice so much, you'll be pulling out your toenails at the roots before your ready for Lu Bu's challenge.
I feel like Lu Bu has once again regained his title as "Ultimate Badass" after playing Warriors Orochi 3.
His crowd-clearing C2 chokeslam proved to be indispensable in my Chaos Mode runs.
His C5 reminds me of Tadakatsu's signature C4.
He probably has the most broken Special attack in the game, where he drags his opponents with a vacuum effect.
Overall, he got a major boost in the latest installment, and seems to be on par with Tadakatsu now (or maybe even better).
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Hmm, I beat WO3 some time ago now, I should pick it up again, but I would like to say that although Lu Bu is a complete badass, he still falls a little short of both versions of Orochi and Susanoo IMO. Outside of those two, Lu Bu is perhaps the best non-mystic in the entire game bar none.
Lu Bu in game has been above Tadakatsu since Tadakatsu has been introduced. Out of game mechanics he still wins. There are few people in WO3 that can outdo him.
Well, ignoring game mechanics Nezhra owns Lu Bu in under a minute, the most thorough stomping in the game really. I'd wager Susan'o, Orochi/Shin Orochi, Achilles and Nemea could give him a tough fight if not defeat him ultimately. But if you're talking Chaos playthru... Mitsuhide + typhoon * maxed final weapon = Done deal. His versatility is rather broken. Outside of high star Hard/Chaos, Nemea's musuo one-shots even the Storm God, so in that respect he is broken, and Himiko's musuo scales very nicely.
And for the thread, it's a close one but I give it to Tadakatsu. He has a cooler head and more experience.
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Update: Having done some research, I can't seem to find anything official on Lu Bu's max stats or anyone else's, and there seems to be some variance among users, perhaps related to errors (counting in non-base stats), lack of proficiency (such as maxing a char with just growth points) and perhaps weapons equipped (whether or not that weapon is actually harmonious with the user).
Here's an example of people comparing stats elsewhere. Since I just got WO3 about a month or two ago and have been playing it a lot, this is new to me and very interesting. My top chars are Nemea, Da Ji, and Mitsuhide in that order, followed by Ma Chao, Achilles, Himiko, Nobunaga, Lu Meng, and Nuwa. Having played every character at least twice, it's hard to be even more specific, because there's a lot of diversity.
One of the posters in that link I provided says that Susano stomps, but that's not surprising given his Mystic badass position. When it comes to more human enemies, Honda is close and Lu Meng is surprisingly close as well.
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