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Originally posted by Mairuzu
wesker dashes at chief and up kicks him in the jaw

knocking off his helmet, wesker then kicks his head off

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Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Points to make:

- Chief's armor is far from weak. When you watch the Halo 3 intro, take a look at the fall and impact of Master Chief. That fall would completely destroy any steel object from car to aircraft if it was dropped from that height. The armor weights a ton, which proves the incredible density in the metal it is built with. An assault rifle is incapable of penetrating less durable metals than that of Mjolnir Mark VI. Not to mention the shield that efficiently stops light ballistic weaponry.

- Sure an assault rifle would not hit Wesker, just like it would not hit Chief. The Chief has enhanced speed and he observes bullets in slowmotion, no different from Wesker. And even if the assault rifle could hit Chief, it would not harm him, for reasons stated. Halo gameplay is far different from the real Chief. In another high-res video, the Chief had a Scorpion tank smash into him and into a wall without a single dent.

- Wesker falling into the lava was killing him slowly. The RPG rocket penetrated his skull, which was a seperate injury from the lava. Only one of the two rockets hit Wesker. One missed, so it took only one to kill him and it did not even explode in his face. It went right through the head. Him being in lava is irrelevant to his actual death, although the case is so that the lava alone would've done the job.

- The Chief would most probably die, yes. Just like Wesker was. It is irrelevant however, because Wesker proved other vulnerabilities. A mere human could stab an injection into his neck, as proof of fairly weak skin. Bullets actually enter his body, but he endure it without problem. He's stopping the RPG rounds shot at him for a reason, and the reason we see in the end of the game. The shot penetrates.

- Wesker was in his transformed state on the vulcano. If this is the same Wesker, he's far more screwed than I first imagined. Wesker is more durable in his transformated state, yes, but he's a lot slower and a lot bigger and clumsier. But again, the fact that he was in the vulcano is irrelevant. It was the RPG that killed him, and it would've with or without the lava. Much like the lava was slowly working with finishing Wesker.
Besides, while the transformation made Wesker more durable, any feats during that stage is completely irrelevant, since it's a completely different Wesker. The weakening fluid (Yes, yes, I know. It was weakening however, no matter what the fluid was, so I'm not wrong) was cleared from his body when he took in the Uroboros. He had to in order to manage, as he himself stated. Given his internal, biological and mental recovery, there's no other explanation than that it cleared the "poison" out of his veins.

- If you think a single rocketlauncher would kill Chief, who fell several miles and created a creater upon impact without as much as a minor dent or even a scratch on his armor, you are gravely misstaking. Don't confuse gameplay with the actual power of the character.

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Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
The chief may be strong, but Wesker is fast as hell, and even if Chief could land a hit, he would regenerate and come back just as strong.
And this is fast wesker, not transformed. Chief cannot land a hit. The way you guys are talking, Chief is Immortal because of his armor. He can still be killed.

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Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
I think we've reached a stalemate. Wesker hits chief: nothing happens

chief hits wesker (which he can't, even with slo-mo: wesker can do the same thing) he flies back a few hundred feet, gets up and keeps fighting.

As to without armor, wesker's attacks would then hit and hurt the Chief. Without armor, wesker wins. With, i think neither wins.

And, Wesker is a genetically enhanced super-soldier as well.

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Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
I think we've reached a stalemate. Wesker hits chief: nothing happens

chief hits wesker (which he can't, even with slo-mo: wesker can do the same thing) he flies back a few hundred feet, gets up and keeps fighting.

As to without armor, wesker's attacks would then hit and hurt the Chief. Without armor, wesker wins. With, i think neither wins.

And, Wesker is a genetically enhanced super-soldier as well.

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Originally posted by SpadeKing
wesker apparently can't even hurt chris enough to finish him, if a super strength human moving fast enough to dodge bullets hit you that hard you should be dead or unconcious in one blow

he has been trying to kill chris for awhile and still sucks at it, i would go for wesker against almost anyone but against chief is pushing it, without the armour chief is about equal to wesker more or less

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Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
I know the chief is still fast, but he's just not fast enough. You know, i have abandoned that idea that wesker can win, It would take a while, but all the chief needs is a vial of Uroboros, a volcano, and a couple rpgs.

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Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
It wasn't a weakening fluid! Actually it was the same virus he used to gain his power, he has to continuously inject himself to keep his state of power.

Also may I remind you the damage he does to his ship is in fact during his weakened state so ergo even when at his weakest he can still put his hand through solid steel (of which an aircraft of that design would have to be made from) and titanium, and that from that very list you have provided more reasons as to how Wesker would destroy the chief also you kinda only compiled a source from RES5 unfortunately, and therefore you still don't know of other feats from previous games, I'd also like to point out that you actually missed out some other key points from RES5 itself such as Wesker being able to with stand several hand cannon rounds to the face.

It has also been shown that Wesker has a regenerative healing factor such as when his face was burnt in Code V, even if the chief could somehow hit Wesker it would matter not.

Now the Chief's turn, flipping vehicles is a stupid statement it's used as player convenience, by that logic Gordon Freeman is on the same level as the chief (actually he would be stronger, Gordon has an intellect, unlike the Chief), he can flip cars in Half Life after all. Funny how if you fall in game (Halo) You actually die, your comment on him falling and surviving, well I call PIS on that.

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Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
He needs it to weaken wesker, or to make him turn into the big monster guy, which he can beat easily because the monster version is very slow, and speed is the only thing keeping him alive. Doesn't an overdose of the virus kill him?

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Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
I know the chief is still fast, but he's just not fast enough. You know, i have abandoned that idea that wesker can win, It would take a while, but all the chief needs is a vial of Uroboros, a volcano, and a couple rpgs.

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Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
- Punching through solid steel is nothing less of an admirable feat of strength, I give him that. It's nowhere near the Chief league however, so that point is to say the least irrelevant. The Chief is a damn circus monkey in terms of agility in his one ton suit. I can't seem to remember it specifying anywhere though that he punch through titanium. Everything indicate it's nothing but regular steel he punch through.

- Several handgun rounds to the face gives him decent endurance feats, yes, better than most combatants Chief has fought. It does not change the fact however that the bullets enter his body. They penetrate his skin, although doesnt damage or cripple Wesker. His skin is not durable, he simply has high endurance. He even get an injection in his neck, which prove frail skin. Frail enough for a mere human to stab a needle through it. Chief is far beyond a hundred times stronger than any human.

- Past feats by Wesker are also fairly irrelevant. We have seen the peak of his speed, the peak of his reaction, the peak of his durability and the peak of his strength in RE5. What more can you possibly want to show us, that is not included there?

- The Chief has regenerating ability too, able to heal wounds thanks to his suit. Much like Wesker however, Chief can not heal holes in his body or lost limbs. While Wesker lack the strength to inflict such injury, Chief does not lack it to inflict said on Wesker.

- We'll start with the intellect part. Master Chief is a walking computer. He analyze data, numbers and scenarios instantly, and is extremely much more intelligent and swift at mind than any human. He's compared to a supercomputer.
Over to the gameplay part: No amount of gameplay can excuse cutscenes which are the true canon feats. In cutscenes, Wesker is superior in speed, but in gameplay, you can best him. Cutscenes are far more accurate, since they do not include numbers. Gameplay is all about numbers. That many rounds from that weapon inflict that much damage, which substract so many numbers from that player ID by so much. In cutscenes, there are no numbers. Just character feats.

Chief in the very first Halo 3 cutscene, the intro, descends the atmosphere in flames. Do you have any idea how hot that descend is, when he actually catch flames for coming in with such force? The impact left a big crater, but not the descent nor the impact even scratched his armor. Which fit into the description of Mjolnir Mark VI far more than being killed by a handgun by a regular marine. Ingame, Master Chief also lack many HUD properties, he lack slowmotion experience, he can not move a tiny little rock that pretent him from passing a passage (A rock a teenage regular human could move) and he can carry only two weapons (Although the weapon part has a decent explanation, but irrelevant)


The reason you die in the game if you jump certain heights, is because if you could jump anywhere, you could shortcut incredibly. You could complete a level that would take you half an hour in a minute at some occasions. The reasons your armor withstand much less than it does in novels and cutscenes, is because if you could take ballistic rounds like in novels and cutscenes, you could walk through the game and melee down 9 out of 10 enemies. Also, ingame "feats" are inconsistant. You can survive thousand and thousands of rounds of machineguns if the distance between each hit is long enough, but a single grenade can kill you. This grenade barely strong enough to move a small wooden box, less so destroy this small wooden box, is capable of completely killing a man in a one ton metal armor.

You can't possibly pick gameplay over cutscenes for actual canon.