"Apoc, however, does have the two components needed to beat Juggs- the strength to remove the helmet, and telepathy."
And how can Apocalypse accomplish this when the Juggernaut has his magical force field up?
"without a doubt proteus kicks juggernauts buttox."
When have reality warping powers ever affected the Juggernaut.
"Mags can`t put Juggy down, but he can put him trough a wormhole to the center or the sun for the BFR"
Even this would be unlikely since magic defies science and physics. Cyttorak's magic would help the Juggernaut not get BFR'ed. Wherever the Juggernaut wants to go, he will go there.
The key word here is also if Hulk is mad enough he can beat the hell out of him and Superman dropped him with one punch. Magneto would beat Juggernaut with no problem.
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"The key word here is also if Hulk is mad enough he can beat the hell out of him and Superman dropped him with one punch. Magneto would beat Juggernaut with no problem."
No, he can't. Cyttorak's magic can overcome anything that the Hulk can dish out, excluding War Hulk, who was boosted by Celestial Technology.
Magneto can't defeat the Juggernaut for the same reason.
In the What If where Professor X got the Juggernauts power instead of Cain, Magneto tried to kill Charles by using his magnetism to crush him inside his armor. It didn't work.
While that story is non-canon, I think the result would be the same with Cain.
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I'm starting to feel like a broken record.
I suspect Juggernaut's body functions as "normal" if it is there. If something vital is missing he is sustained by magic. He can eat and drink, though he doesn't need to, and Nimrod was able to screw with his senses via ultrasonics.
The whole thing gets weirder the more I think about it though. But I really don't think he's like Iceman, Colossus, or Sand or Hydro man in that, depending on the day, they are essentially golems.
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I could see it not working since the D'Spayre instance completely independent of the D'Spayre instance.
I don't see why it wouldn't work but I wouldn't be surprised if the issue come along and Juggernaut just decided he didn't want things like that to work anymore. That he wanted it to be like back in the day when people didn't think enough to try things like that so he could go back to the old days when he'd always get thwarted by being tripped up or getting his helmet knocked off and the x-men suddenly showing up.
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