So I suppose Vaan is also super-human to be able to throw Vayne Novus (who is a mutant super-human) through the air like nothing?
Half-human is a thing, super-human is another very different. The Guados aren't super-humans, just a different race. We know by facts that Seymour is a sorcerer capable of performing Magical attacks and also he is capable of Summoning like the video Nephthys is showing.
1. That's a non-sequitur.
2. Seymour pushing a giant rampaging monster back several feet is in a whole diferent leageu than throwing a Vayne who's slightly taller than before.
What Seymour did was beyond the capability of any human being. Thus it is superhuman.
What Vaan did was at the best peak human.
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Well Seymour would have a kinda hard time with Vaan. Anastasia is no joke. But eventually he'll win. I'd expect similar results with Squall and Tifa as well. Tellah is a pretty powerful mage. But if I remember right his age was effecting his strength. The emperor....was kinda a pushover. He does however have the abilities to keep summoning monsters from hell, but obviously that didn't help him when he fought Firion
Now Kuja would be the biggest challenge. Kuja gets out of Bahmut strongest attack with a scracth on the forhead and Seymour can't die unless he is sent. It would probably be a long fight but Seymour would win
That giant monster hasn't received any type of damage. Seymour punching that monster wouldn't harm it, the monster would harm his hand, unless he's Tifa.
Vayne was drastically enhanced and he was super-human at that stance, that's the difference. He was a super-powerful mutant, stronger than Seymour, any Judge from the game and above any human characteristics. There is not comparison whatsoever.
The same I can say about Vaan, but we know either of them are super-humans.
But Seymor can still be defeated. You don't have to actually kill someone to win a fight. All those times the FFX team fought Seymor, they won, even though he didn't really die for good.
I think Kuja would be more than a match for Seymor.
Haha yeah you're right. Sorry, I usually take these type of topics as a death match. I agree than. I think Kuja would be able to beat him in just a fight
Yeah. Seymour showed an obvious super human feat. Vaan also has showed some feats of an above human in more than one situation. But we really don't need it stated if a character just flat out does something
Go into the Freeway and try to stop an incoming car, that is about the equivelant of Seymour's feat, by size the Sinspawn is much heavier but the car is moving faster, so try to stop it and when you do tell me it is a human feat.
How strong, powerful is Vayne to be able to throw him through air like nothing should be the question. Obviously stronger than that Sinspawn.
You are comparing us to them here.
Obviously that Seymour or any of those characters are super-humans when you compare them to us. Under their standards they aren't super-humans unless there is something that suggest they are than just a strength feat to show they are super-humans. Vaan isn't super-human, there is nothing that suggests that his abilities, capabilities or powers are beyong any human in the Final Fantasy Universe, thus he isn't super-human. Sure, let's say they are super-powerful because they can Summon or cast Magic, we perfectly know they aren't because that's something normal in that Universe. Let's say Tifa feats are awesome, sending Loz to a wall just by punching his face, but we know she isn't super-human because she was trained by that old guy Zangan which is also a human.
Vayne being stronger than the Sinspawn doesn't mean anything. Seymour stopping th eSinspawn is more impressive than what Vaan did.
And yes, even by FFX standards, Seymour is superhuman. He's probably the second strongest character in Spira, right after Trema. Note I said character, not monster.
So by Spiran standard, Seymour is insanely powerful and thus, superhuman.
Unless you can show me another FFX character with a comparable strength feat?
Didn't think so.
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It means is harder to do that to a super-mutant which abilities are beyond any human, unlike that monster without brain. And thanks for admitting that Vayne is stronger. He is anyway.
But he didn't harm it. After that he had to fight him with his Magics, instead of his: 'super-human' strength, lol.
I'm afraid he isn't, by any standards. You wouldn't say he's super-human just because he's an half-Guado, right? Because that wouldn't make sense.
What makes you think that?
We can say that if we're talking about Seymour Omnis. But we're talking about normal Seymour here.
Lmao. Sure... By the Rabanastian/Ivalician standards Vaan is super-human. How ridiculous. This made me to laugh.
I can show you an easier thing: Seymour isn't super-human.
1. Lol. Who did he throw that was that heavy? And no, that Sinspawn would be multi-ton in strength by virtue of being able to support its own weight.
2. Wtf? We are human, so yes I was comparing them to us you imbecile. When I say "superhuman," you can safely assume I am comparing them to, shocker, NORMAL HUMANS. Also... Humor me and name a character that has shown to be physically stronger than Seymour from FFX. Tifa is not superhuman now, because she was trained by Zangan? Is it possible that... Zangan is superhuman? Or maybe that Tifa surpassed him? Normal humans in both FFVII and FFX are like us, so yes, Tifa and Seymour are both superhuman.
3. Maybe not to a simpleton. Being stronger does not mean heavier, at the very least in fiction. The girls may be able to toss cars like baseballs, but they still only weigh like 20 pounds each. I am able to both lift and throw 20 pounds.
I believe GrieverSquall's point was that you are comparing them to humans in our world, that is to say, people like you or me. But what is normal human is different in FF worlds. They are super human when compared to US, not compared to fantasy standards.
Otherwise we have a LOT of super humans on our hands.
But this is all irrelevant anyway. Who cares if Seymor is strong? He's a mage, he's not going to do battle with his fists. That's like saying someone is the best swordsman in the world, except he only uses guns.
Heavy as that monster? anyone, I suppose. Vaan did threw someone: Powerful? Yes more than that monster. Stronger? Yes, more than that monster. Seymour threw that monster like Vaan did with Vayne? No. Did he even harm it? No. Yeah you can suppose he is 'multi-ton' or whatever you like. Like that would matter anyway, that monster was killed by at least three people.
Wow... Imbecile. I think you already know that lame insults won't help you in anything whatsoever (whispers: only to look bad). Right, mate?
So, you are comparing them to us? Why? We have to compare them with eachother, after all, all the characters from Final Fantasy (if we follow that logic) are super-humans compared to us. But not all of them under their own standard. Let's see... Now you're claiming that Tifa and ZANGAN are super-humans? For what? For no apparent reason whatsoever? What do you have to back this up? What do you have to back the claim that Zangan was super-human? We all know Bruce Lee will kill me with one of his punches, but we also know he isn't super-human. He trained to become what he was and to reach those abilities. Same with Tifa. But she is, definitely not super-human. Unless you have something to back this up (or something from the game that suggest that) which I would love to hear it. Oh, Seymour isn't super-human nor Vaan.
About what girls are you talking about? You are HARDLY making any sense.
Read above.
EXACTLY. That's what he is. No super-human.
When you compare them to us, yes.
At what paragraph are you replying to...?
The rest of the characters hasn't shown their strength feats, why would you say Seymour is the most physically stronger character of all?
1. Okay, first of all, please learn how to make your posts a wee bit more coherent. Being stronger or more powerful does not make you more difficult to throw. I could pick up a Chimpanzee, yet the Chimpanzee is likely much stronger than I am. Superman is considerably physically more powerful than a Blue Whale. Yet I could pick Superman up and run with him. The whale, not so much. Also, what are Vayne's strength feats, out of curiosity?
2. Difference being you seem only too eager to display your incompetence for any who have the misfortune to read your ridiculous posts.
Gee, well, um, because we are, you know, human? If I were to compare every single character in whatever fiction they are from only to the humans of their respective verse, then vs. threads and discussions would become overtly convoluted. I call them superhuman in reference to us because most are at least somewhat aware of what a human being is capable of in the real world. That clear enough for you Ralph Wiggum?
I was pointing out that you are assuming Zangan's capabilities when... We have absolutely no idea how strong he is. Though if he is as strong as Tifa or stronger... Guess what? He is superhuman. No reason whatsoever? Gee, it might be her ability to fight at superhuman speeds, her superhuman strength, and her superhuman durability that make her superhuman? Just maybe? Bruce Lee probably could not kill you with any old normal punch by the way, a punch upwards from below your nose would you, yes, but I doubt a punch to your head would kill you with the impact alone. Even his kicks did not do that. Training to become a superhuman does not change the fact that she is superhuman. Krillin from DBZ trained to become superhuman, and can now blow up mountains. Same thing. Well in Advent Children she punches Loz with enough force to destroy stone upon impact if I recall correctly, which is a superhuman striking feat.
3. The Powerpuff Girls. If you were ignorant of who they were, just say so.
How about Cloud himself then? Obviously much stronger than I am. Yet I could lift him and throw him, as in I am capable of it.
4. I refuted your trash argument sir.
5. Wait... So one cannot be both? Laughable. He is a mage who is superhuman physically.
6. Which would make them superhuman.
7. Because his feats are the best that I can recall.
None of the others actually have any superhuman feats of physical strength that I remember, the only thing seemingly superhuman about Tidus I recall is his ridiculous lung capacity that allows him to avert from drowning while playing Drowning Ball.
Facts are, Seymour is the only one with any indication of superhuman strength, so we must assume he is physically stronger than the others. Also, he is hyped to be quite powerful from early on.
8. Dun't know, never played XII to completion.
9. You don't even know what circular logic is.
Please do not reply to me that my logic is faulty when you are the one throwing out fallacies like used hookers.
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This made me to laugh.
