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How do you Picture Shiatan?
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that has almost nothing to do with the thread unless i am missing something here.. i might as well say i prefer the seven deadly sins doesnt really add much unless i am trying to give them each a human characteristic and what they represent..

so care to enlighten me?


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that has almost nothing to do with the thread unless i am missing something here.. i might as well say i prefer the seven deadly sins doesnt really add much unless i am trying to give them each a human characteristic and what they represent..

so care to enlighten me?


God vs Satan is a mythological expression of human nature. That is what you were getting at in your last post (at least that is what it appeared to me). The ten worlds is another expression of human nature, but it's not mythological. The problem with the god vs satan is perfectly illustrated by your post. You (or pop culture) attributed almost anything you wanted to satan. This does very little in the way of helping a person get through life. Sure it might be helpful in some cases like war, but when you are trying to get along with people at work, it falls far sort. The ten worlds has all of the aspects you listed for satan, plus the ones for god, and more. It also shows the relationship between these emotions, and gives concrete solution that work in every day life. Enlightened yet?

I was really just telling you that I think the icon of satan is stupid, and falls short of anything really usable with the exception of a few extreme circumstances.


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is that norman obsorn on the sh#@#er?

anyways at shaky i just wanted ppl to anthropomorphize whatever it was about the adversary and his attributes. i was just tired and bitter last night and decided to question ur post.


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God not only took away his beauty but also gave him a receding hairline


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Originally posted by Mairuzu
God not only took away his beauty but also gave him a receding hairline
was that specifically stated in the bible? i really cant remember any reference to his actual punishment in the quran and i know it wasnt mention in the Torah about his fall or anything other then him being a servant of god... unless i completely missed something from the new testament or an old manuscript outside the bible like the book of enoch.

also aren't angels in their physical form shapeless or something?

i bn giving the devil a human form if he took on a human form but what would he look like in his true form?

would he still look like the morning star or would he be something more hideous with some form of a malleable body?

i mean we know angels arent human so why would they look like bone and meat like the rest of us?


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is that norman obsorn on the sh#@#er?

anyways at shaky i just wanted ppl to anthropomorphize whatever it was about the adversary and his attributes. i was just tired and bitter last night and decided to question ur post.


That ok, I was board, and no one was on the form. big grin


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I was being facetious but honestly, i dont think they even have forms. They're probably of spirit.


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I was being facetious but honestly, i dont think they even have forms. They're probably of spirit.


What is a spirit?


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All the energy flowing within our bodies.


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All the energy flowing within our bodies.


What kind of energy? Does it have mass? It is effected by gravity?


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In physics, energy (from the Greek ἐνέργεια - energeia, "activity, operation", from ἐνεργός - energos, "active, working"[1]) is a quantity that can be assigned to every particle, object, and system of objects as a consequence of the state of that particle, object or system of objects. Different forms of energy include kinetic, potential, thermal, gravitational, sound, elastic, light, and electromagnetic energy.


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It seems that you can't have energy without a partial of some kind.


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Unfortunately I'm not too sure, I was born with limited knowledge just as everyone else. Everything we've come to know is just what we've been told by the people of the past. If god is real, i believe the soul to be just as real.

Its obvious you're just looking to prove someone wrong. It's fun isnt it? stick out tongue


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Unfortunately I'm not too sure, I was born with limited knowledge just as everyone else. Everything we've come to know is just what we've been told by the people of the past. If god is real, i believe the soul to be just as real.

Its obvious you're just looking to prove someone wrong. It's fun isnt it? stick out tongue


Proving something wrong is the only thing we can do. Speaking of wrong, your assertion that all we know is what people have told us, doesn't take into account experimentation. There are people who believe in Santa Clause, unicorns, and space aliens. They are all loosely based on some belief, and maybe even some truth, but belief is not good enough to convince someone else.


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Indeed. I'lll still continue to spread the word in case I'm right, you know, just like we send radio signals for aliens just in case.


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Indeed. I'lll still continue to spread the word in case I'm right, you know, just like we send radio signals for aliens just in case.


We search for radio waves from possible aliens; we don't intentionally broadcast signals to possible aliens.


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How are you so sure? wink


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How are you so sure? wink


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Lazy.


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Lazy.


Always. stick out tongue


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how do you guys picture his voice?


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