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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
BUT, he kinda reconned himself when he stated that a lone celestial was several orders of magnitude above himself...
Meh, until Celestials actually prove that level of power, then I'll take Kubik's statement with a grain of salt.
Again, his feats are FAR superior to any of the others. Thus he is FAR superior to any of the others. Imo.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Meh, until Celestials actually prove that level of power, then I'll take Kubik's statement with a grain of salt.
Again, his feats are FAR superior to any of the others. Thus he is FAR superior to any of the others. Imo.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Black bolt z
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Meh, until Celestials actually prove that level of power, then I'll take Kubik's statement with a grain of salt.
Again, his feats are FAR superior to any of the others. Thus he is FAR superior to any of the others. Imo.
agreed
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Jun 6th, 2010 02:07 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Meh, until Celestials actually prove that level of power, then I'll take Kubik's statement with a grain of salt.
Again, his feats are FAR superior to any of the others. Thus he is FAR superior to any of the others. Imo.
Its totally your choice to believe or not, but the fact of the matter is that comic characters can and do get reconned...and the situation with Kibik is clearly a situation where he was reconned.
Again, Kubik warped an entire resisting universe with ease; IMHO, nothing short of the Infinity Guantlet should be capable of such a feat...Kubik (at that point in time) was capable of such a thing.
But its clear that someone thought that that kind of feat was more than a cube being should be capable of (as it upsets the cosmic hierarchy), so then he was rewritten (with himself being the mouthpiece) as being "several orders of magnitude" (meaning he's...according to his own words...atleast 100 times) less powerful than a lone Celestial.
This is as clear a case of a character being reconned as I have ever seen; if you think about it logically, I think you'll come to the same conclusion.
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Jun 6th, 2010 04:47 AM
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It'd be awesome to see T&A face off against Tyrant, I have a feeling that they would crush him, we really didn't get to see them fighting in full pomp, during Annihilation...
as to the thread... Team 2, for now.
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Jun 6th, 2010 10:12 AM
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Based purely on feats from the characters in question, Kubik takes this alone with ease.
Based on statements and feats from Galactus calculated in with the supposed power rating between Tyrant, Aegis and Tenebrous in comparison to Galactus, Stalemate or a slight lean towards Tenebrous and Aegis.
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galactus has enough power to destroy a universe 10 times over that alone truimps kubiks feat
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Yeah...retcons stink.
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Jun 6th, 2010 03:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
galactus has enough power to destroy a universe 10 times over that alone truimps kubiks feat
Ok galactus does not have power to destroy 10 universes.He's not that strong.
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Jun 6th, 2010 05:09 PM
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yes he does justs ask galactusis here
even shuma gorath eats entire universes, this puts him above kubiks feat
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Jun 6th, 2010 05:39 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
galactus has enough power to destroy a universe 10 times over that alone truimps kubiks feat
it was a statement that supposedly iirc was made by the watcher, so Galactus have never actually performed the feat.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yes he does justs ask galactusis here
even shuma gorath eats entire universes, this puts him above kubiks feat
Galactus has never destroyed even a single universe.He has eaten them but eating=/=destroying.
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Jun 6th, 2010 06:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yes he does justs ask galactusis here
even shuma gorath eats entire universes, this puts him above kubiks feat
Shuma Gorath merged with his universe. I don't recall him eating universes. And Galactus would have to die to wreck universes.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Shuma Gorath merged with his universe. I don't recall him eating universes. And Galactus would have to die to wreck universes.
but you do agree that
Vishanti>galactus=agamotto>celestials>cube beings=demogorge
you said something similiar to this before
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
but you do agree that
Vishanti>galactus=agamotto>celestials>cube beings=demogorge
you said something similiar to this before
Vishanti inside of their realm might be able to defeat a well-fed Galactus. There is no way that they can defeat a fed Galactus outside of their realm.
Jun 6th, 2010 06:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
Vishanti inside of their realm might be able to defeat a well-fed Galactus. There is no way that they can defeat a fed Galactus outside of their realm.
they summoned the tribunal outside there realm
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Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Its totally your choice to believe or not, but the fact of the matter is that comic characters can and do get reconned...and the situation with Kibik is clearly a situation where he was reconned.
Again, Kubik warped an entire resisting universe with ease; IMHO, nothing short of the Infinity Guantlet should be capable of such a feat...Kubik (at that point in time) was capable of such a thing.
But its clear that someone thought that that kind of feat was more than a cube being should be capable of (as it upsets the cosmic hierarchy), so then he was rewritten (with himself being the mouthpiece) as being "several orders of magnitude" (meaning he's...according to his own words...atleast 100 times) less powerful than a lone Celestial.
This is as clear a case of a character being reconned as I have ever seen; if you think about it logically, I think you'll come to the same conclusion.
Nothing was 'retconned'. Hell, "Fantastic Four" #319 (the issue in which Kubik warped Beyonder's universe) was specifically referenced when Kubik was speechifying on the Celestials.
Imo, all that issue did was [baselessly] build up the power of Celestials... Kubik: "my power is infinite, but their power is more infinite." *cough*ridiculous*cough*
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Nothing was 'retconned'. Hell, "Fantastic Four" #319 (the issue in which Kubik warped Beyonder's universe) was specifically referenced when Kubik was speechifying on the Celestials.
Imo, all that issue did was [baselessly] build up the power of Celestials... Kubik: "my power is infinite, but their power is more infinite." *cough*ridiculous*cough*
he said theres different levels of infinity and he is right
toaa has infinit power
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Beyonder has infinit power
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Living tribunal has infinit power
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eternity and infinity has infinit power
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he said theres different levels of infinity and he is right
toaa has infinit power
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Beyonder has infinit power
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Living tribunal has infinit power
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eternity and infinity has infinit power
WHat?Everyone knows that.
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