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Warlord
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nah Loki was shown to go intangible instantly in the past.

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So I guess his natural state is permeable then? That's odd. Are you sure he didn't cast a spell?


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he did cast a spell.
It was an instant one triggered by thought.
a spell does not always require a ritual

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Okay so are you saying that the Hulk goes down because of every spell that hits him? Why is this your trump card? Is there any proof that Loki would stop the Hulk with his magic? Is the Hulk sitting there being tagged or can he move or use objects to deflect these spells? Is he in dummy mode, or in character?


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he can try avoid spells but eventually he goes down.
he can't avoid anything loki throws at him all day. at best he flees from the fight.
while on the other hand he can do nothing against an intangible Loki

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Hulk wins with ease. Loki's mgic isn't strong enough to effect him for a quick KO, but Hulk would murder him quickly (whether he is tangible or not).

illusions would also fail against Hulk, even Strange found that out.


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Still uncertain as to what spell kills the Hulk, or puts him down for the duration. Didn't Strange use spells that did not work on the Hulk? What did the Hulk do to him?


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a spell that teleports him to the sun

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he can try avoid spells but eventually he goes down.
he can't avoid anything loki throws at him all day. at best he flees from the fight.
while on the other hand he can do nothing against an intangible Loki

except rip "intangible" shit appart. Loki is nothing compared to smashing the TimeStream (dimensional barriers!) or energy or Maestro's astral form or electricity ...

basically, Loki gets wrecked quickly, whilst he has nothing that Hulk can't shrug off.

Hulk is naturally able to "see" magics, so if Loki tries to sneak attack, Hulk would still spot the spells coming (and Hulk has superior reactions and accuracy).


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so hulk would casually hit intangible Loki.
Funny that didn't work with Vision and he had to materialise back in order to hit him

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that's the difference between comics and forums, they fight to the best of their abilities.

most likely it was to do with Vision being a computer, phasing between dimensions (when going intangible) but anyway ... more showing of classic (Savage) Hulk hitting intangile things than of hiim not managing it. hell, he could ThunderClap Loki's head off if he wanted to instantly kill him


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so hulk would casually hit intangible Loki.
Funny that didn't work with Vision and he had to materialise back in order to hit him



The Hulk has touched intangible characters in the past, he has also shown uncanny aim, while not even being able to see who he was aiming at. he's done this more than once. he crushed Dr. Stranges hands while he was in his Astral form.

So yes.

He's not just a one trick pony when you look at all of the weird and unatural feats that he has accomplished.


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The Hulk has touched intangible characters in the past, he has also shown uncanny aim, while not even being able to see who he was aiming at. he's done this more than once. he crushed Dr. Stranges hands while he was in his Astral form.

So yes.

He's not just a one trick pony when you look at all of the weird and unatural feats that he has accomplished.


Strange And Hulk were both on the astral plane when he did that.
OK guys I'd really like some scans with Hulk hiting intangible characters
Thanks in advance

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Strange And Hulk were both on the astral plane when he did that.
OK guys I'd really like some scans with Hulk hiting intangible characters
Thanks in advance


Didn't Hulk not hurt the Vision when he entered his body nearly killing him? Strange was miles away from Banner physically, so how did Banner crush his hands? Is the Hulk also a beast on the psychic plane?


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Okay so are you saying that the Hulk goes down because of every spell that hits him? Why is this your trump card? Is there any proof that Loki would stop the Hulk with his magic? Is the Hulk sitting there being tagged or can he move or use objects to deflect these spells? Is he in dummy mode, or in character?
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Hulk wins with ease. Loki's mgic isn't strong enough to effect him for a quick KO, but Hulk would murder him quickly (whether he is tangible or not).
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Still uncertain as to what spell kills the Hulk, or puts him down for the duration. Didn't Strange use spells that did not work on the Hulk? What did the Hulk do to him?
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Loki depowers him. Loki wins.


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^this or something like Hulk punches magic

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^this or something like Hulk punches magic
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Loki teleport BFRs him then. Loki still wins.


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I'm with you all the way. I'm trying to say this exact thing in my posts above.
I just lacked scans...wink

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Wanda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odin, so don't see the relevance there... plus, who disputes bfr?

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mostly irrelevant to this fight but:

1) Savage Hulk had no control whatsoever, over his transformations or personal power.

2) does not demonstrate drainage of power, ala Surfer, he manages to just trigger the reverse transformation. something which will not aid Loki in this encounter (as Bruce Banner >>> Abomination, post M-day, iirc).

3) no denying BFR works, but I was speaking about the results of a fight, not ways to avoid a fight.

4) current Hulk is a balance of Bruce and Hulk aspects, he has fuller control over his powers (as is being demonstrated), resisting absorption by Rulk (who previously did drain Savage Hulk). so even Gamma drainage is off the table


imo, not a contest... Hulk would murder Loki if Loki got even momentarily stunned by a glancing blow.


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