I see. That's the main thing that keeps me from giving the nod to Groudon just yet. I think Groudon is likely stronger/tougher than Akuma, but SGS might be a problem.
So how fast is Groudon? Cuz if we take SFIV's version of the move, all he has do is say "Raging Demon".
And seriously, if dude can sink islands at holding back levels. Then has a move that translates to "continent destroyer" and then can go Shin and is suspected to be able to cause nuclear winters and then can go Oni, which based off of gameplay alone, is like 10X stronger than Shin, I don't think now is the right time to write Akuma off or ignorantly underestimate him at all...
Just sayin...
I refuse to take sides in anymore Akuma debates 'til Oni's story is explained, but when there are facts to be layed out (and in a thread like this, facts are needed, indeed) it is my duty to do so.
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I don't play Pokemon. I don't know how fast Groudon is.
But "If he has a soul, he will die," is an ignorant statement that oversimplifies the fight.
The translated name of the Kongou Kokuretsu Zan is not actually evidence.
The difference between sinking an island and pulling a continent or reshaping the world is gigantic.
While Oni Akuma is obviously something new under Akuma's belt and may showcase more impressive feats (Or not, since Shin's only feat that I recall is noncanon), we have yet to see any, so until we get some clarification, such hyperbole should not be considered.
Do note I have yet to actually say if someone wins, I was only commenting on Frisky Dingo's verdict, which has yet to have substantial evidence provided.
Oh, and because I do not know, would you mind telling me where you got the bit at the top of your post, that using the Shun Goku Satsu would simply be a matter of saying "Raging Demon?"
Still no evidence of resistance to mind control. Any evidence will do though. As far as I recall bison has never attempted to posses akuma. Simply saying they don't mess with him or his mind is too strong doesn't cut it. He's fair game if groudon is fair game to raegin demon.
Groudon mind rapes akuma and makes him punch himself into orbit.
Would intense sunlight affect Akuma at all? I doubt it, but it'd be nice to know since it's going to be called automatically.
Akuma's resistance to Fire and general energy attacks would be nice to know as well. I'm assuming those will be fairly high what with Hadoken and the Shoryuken things flying around.
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Gouki has tanked lava B4 and Dfeated a man who can raise massive mountains of fire and ice with the wave of his hand. So I think Gouki has very hi resistance 2 heat and cold.
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Y is it okay 4 every1 2 side with Groudon but win I side with Gouki, yur all up N arms? That's not right, @ all.
KKZ is not evidence, but win a man can sink an island with 1 hand while holding back decades B4 the most current SF, win he has move that translates 2 him being able 2 Dstroy a continent. I think the move can B taken seriously. Gouki is no bull shitter. Win he names a move, it usually has the name 4 a reason and is usually quite literal.
Capcom would not have Gouki accomplish a feat N an all Capcom fighting game, that he is not already capable of. Especially since much of the game's background N4mation coincides with canon. Oni doesn't have 2 showcase much of anything if we already no that N his far weaker form, he can cause an impact capable of blocking out the sun.
U did a fantasticly awesum good job @ "commenting on my verdict"! So much so, rather than point out what U thought was wrong, U ran 2 the opposite end of the Dbate.
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