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wrong.

1. vibranium isnt equal nor similar to diamond as any other metal in strength and unbreakability. it has actually been broken and shattered in comics.

2. in comics adamantium has bn stated to be closer to a diamond than vibranium in density/durability.

3. aside from that adamantium wasnt created to replace nor replicate vibranium. it was created to remake captain america's shield which is adamantium prime(unique) which of course had vibranuim.

the failed attempts created true adamantium some what close to the properties to cap although not as efficient at kinetic absorption although still present at a lower rate.


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wrong.

1. vibranium isnt equal nor similar to diamond as any other metal in strength and unbreakability. it has actually been broken and shattered in comics.

2. in comics adamantium has bn stated to be closer to a diamond than vibranium in density/durability.

3. aside from that adamantium wasnt created to replace nor replicate vibranium. it was created to remake captain america's shield which is adamantium prime(unique) which of course had vibranuim.

the failed attempts created true adamantium some what close to the properties to cap although not as efficient at kinetic absorption although still present at a lower rate.


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Ok to clarify lets say somehow someone was able to make a single round trip to the comic universe and back bring with them any item they could get a hold of. Since these items are fictional and not naturally occurring or know to be possible in our universe they can't be replicated or synthesised again. Once back they decided rather than keep the item they were just going to publicize it to the world and then hold an open auction to any and all bidders. Trying to find the true value and cash in for all its worth.

That clear it up? confused


based on scarcity alone the value is infinite, or rather, would be limited by the highest bid of the most interested party, much more like origional pieces of art than valued for its utility.

This might drive the piece into the hundreds of millions or low billions, but would not be nearly as valuable as a piece that that could be researched to produce new innovations in the real world. The stipulation you have created really now only measures the anachronistic quality of the device, and is in no way related to its utility, function or ability to affect the modern world.

In this regard, the most valuable item in Marvel would be the one that appeals to the richest person on earth in such a way that they are willing to give all their fortune for it, whatever it might be. and, imho, this is more likely to be a used pair of MJ's panties than a webshooter that can't be patented.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand primary Adamantium is extremely difficult to manufacture, shape and mold. Iirc it also makes Wolverine roughly twice as heavy as someone with his body type would normally be. Wouldn't that kinda defeat the purpose of it being a titanium replacement, namely its strength, flexibility and light weight? I think vibranium would probably be a better candidate.

Perhaps some of our Wolverine experts can chime in.


Wolverine's skeleton is officially cited as adding an additional 100lbs to his frame. He weighs 300lbs with Adamantium, and 195lbs without (dated data Marvel has never upgraded since his original built when he first joined the X-Men, his shorter stockier self should be closer to 220... but whatever). The skeleton accounts for about 20% of the bodies weight, so we are looking at a bone skeleton of 39lbs, and an Adamantium skeleton of 144lbs. According to google steel is about 4.5 heavier than bone so a pure steel skeleton would be about 175lbs (plus the 39lbs skeleton if they are fused together like Wolverine's with Adamantium)


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i was sayin spawn dude is wrong in the history to adamantium and you are wrong in making the diamond comparison to vibranium.

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Adamantium was IIRC made as a synthetic substitute for Vibranium because Vibranium was super hard to find. Meaning Adamantium was easier to manufacture than finding and manufacturing Vibranium.

I wasn't thinking of titanium's lightweight and flexibility so much as its high resistance to heat.


you can get srank, jinzin, dumdum to verify or correct me or contradict you guys assumptions on the metals


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What about Pym Particles? What you think they would go for?


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low billions for the novelty. a fraction of what they could be worth if patented


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i was sayin spawn dude is wrong in the history to adamantium and you are wrong in making the diamond comparison to vibranium.



you can get srank, jinzin, dumdum to verify or correct me or contradict you guys assumptions on the metals

Lol. Relax, I believe you.


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Wolverine's skeleton is officially cited as adding an additional 100lbs to his frame. He weighs 300lbs with Adamantium, and 195lbs without (dated data Marvel has never upgraded since his original built when he first joined the X-Men, his shorter stockier self should be closer to 220... but whatever). The skeleton accounts for about 20% of the bodies weight, so we are looking at a bone skeleton of 39lbs, and an Adamantium skeleton of 144lbs. According to google steel is about 4.5 heavier than bone so a pure steel skeleton would be about 175lbs (plus the 39lbs skeleton if they are fused together like Wolverine's with Adamantium)
Wow. You guys have this shyte down to a science lol! What about in relation to titanium?

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i was sayin spawn dude is wrong in the history to adamantium and you are wrong in making the diamond comparison to vibranium.



you can get srank, jinzin, dumdum to verify or correct me or contradict you guys assumptions on the metals
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that's right. dont be getting wolvie info wrong and anything wolvie related ninja

i probably shouldnt correct you Srank... butm i believe the official weight was 95 lbs unless it has been recently changed

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