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marwash22
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sure. she'd have his physiology, would she not?


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I'm just going to say this... Rogue TANKED a punch that sent her to the moon (Binary punched her). She didn't even notice it AFTER making it to the moon. She was just in shock from the blow that Binary hit her with. This fea alone make me realize how durable she is. Then let's not include that the only time a herald has done this is when they were amped. Thor did it with the Odin Force (punching someone outside of the planet) and Superman did it when he was amped fighting Lobo.

Here is the feats. Its also a speed feat.. she made it back in a couple of panels.

http://img513.imageshack.us/i/uncanny171page20vi0.jpg/


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Originally posted by marwash22
sure. she'd have his physiology, would she not?



thats what i was thinking, i mean its plausible and all she'd have to do is speed off to the sun for an amp, he'd arguably be on her tail but a smart rogue could drain him, while he's down for a few seconds sun-dip (since she knows his powers) race back and proceed to engage him


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she's leeched Juggy too


Only cuz Cain was feeling kinky.

When did this happen though? I saw it happening on the animated series, and she definitely couldn't handle it. How did she fare in comics?


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if she can leech thor, ares, then clark should be no issue


How does draining Ares mean she can drain Superman? And besides, she overloaded on Ares (who is MUCH less powerful than Superman). And taking 2 nukes (if it is true, and there were no special circumstances) doesn't mean she can take a punch from someone who can destroy a planet (there aren't enough nukes on the planet to reduce the earth to rubble....and there are THOUSANDS of nukes on earth). And according to the original post, this Superman is enraged. Rogue isn't lasting 5 seconds. She wouldn't even see Superman coming before she was KO-ed.

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Lol...

I'm not referring to that issue. She wakes up in a medical center after being hit by the nukes.


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Thor did it with the Odin Force (punching someone outside of the planet



Actually classic Thor did it to Beta Ray Bill with no Odin Force.

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and Superman did it when he was amped fighting Lobo.



A non-amped Superman did it to Wonder Woman.

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How does draining Ares mean she can drain Superman? And besides, she overloaded on Ares (who is MUCH less powerful than Superman). And taking 2 nukes (if it is true, and there were no special circumstances) doesn't mean she can take a punch from someone who can destroy a planet (there aren't enough nukes on the planet to reduce the earth to rubble....and there are THOUSANDS of nukes on earth). And according to the original post, this Superman is enraged. Rogue isn't lasting 5 seconds. She wouldn't even see Superman coming before she was KO-ed.


Hhhmmm... Rogue has some amazing speed feats. Kind of like this one.

http://img254.imageshack.us/i/10418rr8.jpg/

And as for absorbing people. She absorbed Thor and Juggernaut. That alone is proof that she could absorb Supes as well.


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Actually classic Thor did it to Beta Ray Bill with no Odin Force.



A non-amped Superman did it to Wonder Woman.


Thor was going through his warrior madness state.

Superman did it to Wonder Woman when they were by the sun. He was amped, crazy. Then its different and much difficult to punch someone through the planets atmosphere vs punching someone in space where there is nothing stopping the object from going anywhere (gravity).


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Her absorbing Superman won't really work, as the sun will just recharge him, and she'd not going to be able to hold on forever.

Plus, Parasite. He has experience fighting people like her.

She isn't as strong, durable or as fast as him.

She potentially could win a match or two, but no way in hell is she getting a majority.

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Thor was going through his warrior madness state.

Superman did it to Wonder Woman when they were by the sun. He was amped, crazy. Then its different and much difficult to punch someone through the planets atmosphere vs punching someone in space where there is nothing stopping the object from going anywhere (gravity).


you saying there's no gravity in space?


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And as for absorbing people. She absorbed Thor and Juggernaut. That alone is proof that she could absorb Supes as well.


I was only responding to the idea of draining Ares means someone can drain Superman. But, like I said, she overloaded on Ares, and I highly doubt she could drain Thor today, as the one time I know of that she drained Thor without being amped was her first ever appearance, and that happened over 30 years, when:

1) She was a villain, who are usually portrayed as more powerful than heroes.

2) Her powers weren't fully fleshed out.

Nowadays, considering she overloaded on Ares, I highly doubt she's doing the same thing to Thor.

The other time she drained him she was possessed by the Brood Queen, and she was fighting all the Avengers at once. So she was obviously amped.

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How does draining Ares mean she can drain Superman? And besides, she overloaded on Ares (who is MUCH less powerful than Superman). And taking 2 nukes (if it is true, and there were no special circumstances) doesn't mean she can take a punch from someone who can destroy a planet (there aren't enough nukes on the planet to reduce the earth to rubble....and there are THOUSANDS of nukes on earth). And according to the original post, this Superman is enraged. Rogue isn't lasting 5 seconds. She wouldn't even see Superman coming before she was KO-ed.


well for one their "gods"...........their "essense" is magical in nature with a completely different physiology, although clark is alien, the differences between kryptonians and earthlings are cosmetic. And though Ares is less than Superman, he still has a completely different powerset that places him above him....imo


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Hhhmmm... Rogue has some amazing speed feats. Kind of like this one.

http://img254.imageshack.us/i/10418rr8.jpg/

And as for absorbing people. She absorbed Thor and Juggernaut. That alone is proof that she could absorb Supes as well.


No it doesn't.


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She potentially could win a match or two, but no way in hell is she getting a majority.



You're being way too generous. The only way she's beating Superman is if they fight on a planet made of kryptonite, under a red sun, and she has a magic sword (and even then I'd be surprised if Superman didn't find a way to take her down).

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I was only responding to the idea of draining Ares means someone can drain Superman. But, like I said, she overloaded on Ares, and I highly doubt she could drain Thor today, as the one time I know of that she drained Thor without being amped was her first ever appearance, and that happened over 30 years, when:

1) She was a villain, who are usually portrayed as more powerful than heroes.

2) Her powers weren't fully fleshed out.

Nowadays, considering she overloaded on Ares, I highly doubt she's doing the same thing to Thor.

The other time she drained him she was possessed by the Brood Queen, and she was fighting all the Avengers at once. So she was obviously amped.


It could have been Ares makeup and that's irrelevant. She absorbed the ENTIRE Avengers AND the xmen at the same time. That's INSANE. The only person she had trouble absorbing was Wonderman due to his psionic makeup.


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And though Ares is less than Superman, he still has a completely different powerset that places him above him....imo


I'm absolutely speechless. I'm tempted to post an Ares vs Superman thread here and see how many people actually believe that.

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It could have been Ares makeup and that's irrelevant. She absorbed the ENTIRE Avengers AND the xmen at the same time. That's INSANE. The only person she had trouble absorbing was Wonderman due to his psionic makeup.


You know when Odin first appeared in Marvel he was on the level of Galactus. What happened 30 years ago is pretty irrelevant to today.

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Lol...

I'm not referring to that issue. She wakes up in a medical center after being hit by the nukes.



I will take your word for I think this is the issue your talking about but you just remembered it wrong.I find it very strange that she took a nuke and I have never heard about it or it is not in her respect thread.

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You're being way too generous. The only way she's beating Superman is if they fight on a planet made of kryptonite, under a red sun, and she has a magic sword (and even then I'd be surprised if Superman didn't find a way to take her down).


You are doing it again Pillar.


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