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carver9
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A satellited that was prepped by both Reed and Tony. Your argument is lame... Tony in the Extremis Suit could drop him, Zom Strange couldn't drop him, Sentry cutting lose could drop him with all of that energy he was unleashing.

That alone tells you how powerful that satellite was.

I meant to say Tony couldn't stop him and Sentry couldn't stop him with all of the energy they were unleashing.

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WWH got ko'd by a damn satelite.

are you just forgetting the context to that or are you just hoping carver didn't know the truth behind it?

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http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7435/kurse1.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/411/kurse2.jpg

Scene never really made much sense to me for two reasons. That Power Pack girl would need to be hitting Skyfather levels of energy absorption to store that kind of power and Mjolnir/Stormbreaker have never been shown to be able to simply run out of energy. At the very least, they should have self regenerating power reserves akin to the Odin Force. Whatever, Walt wasn't one who cared about power levels.

it's a low showing if you compare it to other more established showings of thor against big threats, long established before he went up against algrim the first time

i still think hulk would f*ck kurse up wink

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Based on this.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...whstrongest.jpg

He's never been as powerful/as strong as Kurse has. This also isn't wb hulk who while a lot stronger is entirely speculative.

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what about hulk #440?

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What about it? The Hulk and Thor stalemated. Luckily Thor was insane. If he actually used more than one lightning bolt and flew instead of going punch for punch, he'd have ended the fight. IIRC, Betty even pointed out Hulk wouldn't be able to withstand much more and then Thor flew head first into Hulk. I don't think his ever pressed the advantage against Hulk; when the idiot gets an edge, he keeps hitting Thor repeatedly with all his got.

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what about hulk #440?

What about him ?

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not too long ago "hulk fought a warrior madness thor" now no...

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What about it? The Hulk and Thor stalemated. Luckily Thor was insane. If he actually used more than one lightning bolt and flew instead of going punch for punch, he'd have ended the fight.

if thor gets stronger when he gets more crazed, he loses a lot of his compultion to do other than hit and zap. we can't have it both ways

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not too long ago "hulk fought a warrior madness thor" now no...

What is your point? Thor entered Warrior Madness near the end there but that's just Thor going all out. The 10x thing hadn't been introduced yet.

Kind of ironic that Thor finally entered the state against a Hulk who was intelligent when brought back from the brink. He dodged Thor's hit and gave him an uppercut; a draw back of the Madness -as stated in the very first appearance by Balder- is the lack of finesse/skill.

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if thor gets stronger when he gets more crazed, he loses a lot of his compultion to do other than hit and zap. we can't have it both ways

Stronger only in the sense that he cuts loose.

There was no trade off.

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not too long ago "hulk fought a warrior madness thor" now no...

if thor gets stronger when he gets more crazed, he loses a lot of his compultion to do other than hit and zap. we can't have it both ways

Yeah, we can't apply the ten times his normal strength to a previous fight since it hadn't been introduced yet.

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WWH got ko'd by a damn satelite.

Anyway Team two wins this fight. Kurse is just too strong. He would have hulk in trouble before he could Amp.

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A satellited that was prepped by both Reed and Tony. Your argument is lame... Tony in the Extremis Suit could drop him, Zom Strange couldn't drop him, Sentry cutting lose could drop him with all of that energy he was unleashing.

That alone tells you how powerful that satellite was.

it wasnt prepped at all as all the satelites were off line for most of the story and it was only a damn satellite.

Tony would have dropped him hardball hadnt sabotaged the nanospintech.

Zomstrange..big deal Herc and Angel dropped the same Zom power using the WWH buster armor.

Thor/Beta Ray Bill combined energy assault>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sentrys energy.

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are you just forgetting the context to that or are you just hoping carver didn't know the truth behind it?

The context of it knocking him the f*ck out.

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The context of it knocking him the f*ck out.

it absorbed his gamma output.....after he literally asked stark to shoot him

two things that won't be happening in this thread

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it absorbed his gamma output.....after he literally asked stark to shoot him

two things that won't be happening in this thread

The absorbing part was only added after the knockout, aided by the Intelligencia tampering with the tech.

So what if he asked stark to shoot him, he never lowered his durability as some stupid people try to claim.

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The absorbing part was only added after the knockout, aided by the Intelligencia tampering with the tech.

So what if he asked stark to shoot him, he never lowered his durability as some stupid people try to claim.

You are seriously low balling and nit picking.

No one said he lowered his durability but you are seriously not understanding everything Hulk went through in that entire arc. He was shot by a fu**** blast that took a chunk out of the moon the size of a state.

The satellite was prepped with Nanites. Get over your Hulk hate and put 2 and 2 together.

As for the thread... Gladiator and Bill are even but Kurse will put up a fight until Hulk decides to end it koing his a**.

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The absorbing part was only added after the knockout, aided by the Intelligencia tampering with the tech.

So what if he asked stark to shoot him, he never lowered his durability as some stupid people try to claim.

point?

if his gamma energy was being sapped, the laser could harm him easier, same principal behind the time he got his neck snapped by the gamma corp in the same arc

kurse/bill can't (bill won't) sap him so... moot point

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[B]You are seriously low balling and nit picking.

Coming from you thats f*cking rich son.

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No one said he lowered his durability but you are seriously not understanding everything Hulk went through in that entire arc. He was shot by a fu**** blast that took a chunk out of the moon the size of a state.

Is that supposed to be impressive ? Bill was taking planet busting shots from Stardust, that Hulk feat is weak sauce compared to other in tanking stuff.

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The satellite was prepped with Nanites.

I challenge you for once to prove that the satellite was prepped with nanites( because the only thing in the entire arc that had nano spin tech was the WWH buster armor, but we all know you wont back up your claim AS YOU NEVER DO)

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Get over your Hulk hate and put 2 and 2 together.

More like you stop being a rabid fanboy of every character you like. It looks like you have put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5.

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As for the thread... Gladiator and Bill are even but Kurse will put up a fight until Hulk decides to end it koing his a**.

Kurse doesnt get ko by simple physical means, and if you knew anything about him you would know that. As if you say Hulk ko's him, why dont you give me any examples of Kurse going down to physical means.

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Coming from you thats f*cking rich son.

Is that supposed to be impressive ? Bill was taking planet busting shots from Stardust, that Hulk feat is weak sauce compared to other in tanking stuff.

I challenge you for once to prove that the satellite was prepped with nanites( because the only thing in the entire arc that had nano spin tech was the WWH buster armor, but we all know you wont back up your claim AS YOU NEVER DO) More like you stop being a rabid fanboy of every character you like. It looks like you have put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5.

Kurse doesnt get ko by simple physical means, and if you knew anything about him you would know that. As if you say Hulk ko's him, why dont you give me any examples of Kurse going down to physical means.

What in the hell are you talking about? You are flipping the argument. I'm giving you examples showing that the blast had to be powerful due to previous things Hulk took that arc and you are screaming out what Bill has taken. I know everything Bill has taken but Bill have nothing to dow with your low balling.

I give up on you yet again... your debating style is pointless.

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