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You're referencing Goblet of Fire, right ?

Yep.

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In goblet of fire Harry had aid from his parents to flee from Voldemort.

At that time he had already won. In fact, the only reason his parents appeared was because he forced the ball towards Voldy's wand.

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Yep.

At that time he had already won. In fact, the only reason his parents appeared was because he forced the ball towards Voldy's wand.

He hadn't already won his parents showed up to ensure his escape.

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3.30. Harry forces Voldemorts spell back into his wand.

Theres also the fact that Harry can resist his imperio.

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He hadn't already won his parents showed up to ensure his escape.

The way you "win" this is by having the ball touch the other's wand. Harry did this. In fact, this is why Voldy needs the Elder Wand to battle Harry, beccause Harry's wand "tasted" Voldemort and will snap any normal wand that Voldemort uses against it.

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3.30. Harry forces Voldemorts spell back into his wand.

Theres also the fact that Harry can resist his imperio.

Neither was done and like I said earlier his parents were there to save his ass he had no chance.

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WTF?

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The way you "win" this is by having the ball touch the other's wand. Harry did this. In fact, this is why Voldy needs the Elder Wand to battle Harry, beccause Harry's wand "tasted" Voldemort and will snap any normal wand that Voldemort uses against it.

Voldemort didn't seem to have any trouble disarming Harry In Order of the Phoenix.

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Voldemort didn't use a wand that time.

Plus was the final book even out yet? It could just be a continuity mistake.

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Voldemort didn't use a wand that time.

Plus was the final book even out yet? It could just be a continuity mistake.

Voldemort had his wand in his hand at the time he easily disarmed Potter.

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But he didn't cast a spell at him.

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But he didn't cast a spell at him.

Do you think if he used Fiendfyre that it couldn't/wouldn't work against Harry Potter say if it killed Dumbledore ?

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I don't know what you just said but this is the entire plot of the last book/movie. It isn't up for debate.

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I don't know what you just said but this is the entire plot of the last book/movie. It isn't up for debate.

That Voldemort could have killed harry if he used a different approach like a fire basilisk. The problem with Voldemort at the end was that he never was the rightful ruler of the Elder Wand that's why he failed.

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Priori Incantatam aside, Harry demonstrated greater willpower when he willingly walked to what he thought was his execution for the greater good. He's "Master of Death" for a reason. Voldemort would listen to the Ring's promises of power and immortality and it would wholly corrupt him. It would take longer than Smeagol, but the man has too many fears and evil desires to resist the Ring.

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Neither was done and like I said earlier his parents were there to save his ass he had no chance.

You are a very stupid person.

The only reason Harry's parents even showed up is because HArry's force of will overpowered Voldemort's.

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I think someone is confusing "willpower" for "magic" and there is a fundamental difference. That Harry's parents rushed Voldemort in order for Harry to escape has absolutely nothing to do with Harry winning the Priori Incantatem through willpower (which he did). Voldemort is the superior wizard and duelist, but Harry's will is stronger.

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You are a very stupid person.

The only reason Harry's parents even showed up is because HArry's force of will overpowered Voldemort's.

They showed up to save him. Voldemort's will was greater but all the help Harry had and the unforeseen Elder wand problems along with the other Horcrux he wasn't aware of ultimately ended badly for him.

Ps. Quit being so emotional when you debate. It's not good. Just walk away from the pc the next time you get so angry.

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They showed up to save him. Voldemort's will was greater but all the help Harry had and the unforeseen Elder wand problems along with the other Horcrux he wasn't aware of ultimately ended badly for him.

Ps. Quit being so emotional when you debate. It's not good. Just walk away from the pc the next time you get so angry.

I'm not angry. I was merely stating something I observed, as one would state "the sky is blue."

His parents left the wand only because Harry's will was greater.

You're either trolling, or biologically fascinating.

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NemeBro
I'm not angry. I was merely stating something I observed, as one would state "the sky is blue."

His parents left the wand only because Harry's will was greater.

You're either trolling, or biologically fascinating.

More specifically, I'd say neurologically.

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I'm not angry. I was merely stating something I observed, as one would state "the sky is blue."

His parents left the wand only because Harry's will was greater.

You're either trolling, or biologically fascinating.

You're really upset and now you've calmed down. I'm also talking about willpower overall not just one scene in which Harry just lost someone right in front of him.

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