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You don't understand JIA's view of Christianity at all.


Actually I do. I used to think and believe just like he does.


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The sheer arrogance of this thread is funny, JIA trying to tell a Buddhist of many long years what Buddhism is about.


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Was Mother Teresa concerned about going to heaven, or feeding starving people? Also, how could Mother Teresa feed the hunger if she died and went to heaven?

In Buddhism, the word "save" mean to be freed from the suffering of this world (Saha).

The word sin, in the way you understand the word, doesn't exist in Buddhism. In Buddhism, a sin would be like doing what Hitler did, killing millions of people. A sin, in your religion is just being.

It is not a sin to be human, therefore, that was not the reason Jesus was on the cross. Look at what happened to the world in the last 2,000 years. That is what Jesus did.


I don’t understand your point about Mother Theresa, but if Jesus Christ was not her Lord and Savior then her charity and philanthropy was in vain.

According to the Bible the believer in Christ is saved for good works—not saved by his works.

Actually "Saha" means "endurance."

Nevertheless, a bodhisattva must attain Buddhahood in order to save others from suffering (although you still have not answered my question concerning just how a bodhisattva effects or accomplishes salvation for others).

No. Sin means to miss the mark.

The mark is God’s Word.

It wasn’t until the first man and woman disobeyed the command (i.e. Word of God) that sin became their fallen nature.

So yes, after the fact sin is a matter of being, condition, or state. But sin is an absolute law that affects every descendant of Adam and Eve, that includes Siddhártha Gautama aka. the Buddha.

Every person born into this world since the fall of Adam and Eve is a sinner by nature and through acts of sin that have been committed.

There was a reason for Jesus to die on the cross.

You see, without the shedding of blood (i.e. the giving up of one’s life in order to pay the wages of sin on behalf of the sinner) there is no remission (i.e. release from the guilt or penalty of).

So that’s why Jesus had to die on the cross, so that fallen, sinful, doomed humanity could be released from the eternal guilt and penalty of sin forever.

Glory to God!

Praise Jesus forevermore!

What has happened in the last two thousand years? I don’t follow you? Can you explain?



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Actually I do. I used to think and believe just like he does.


The fact that you disagree with him about what Christianity is about should be more than enough evidence that you didn't "think and believe" exactly the same as him.

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The sheer arrogance of this thread is funny, JIA trying to tell a Buddhist of many long years what Buddhism is about.


While the Buddhist tells him what Christianity is about.

Actually go back and look at their interactions. There is very little difference between how the two of them argue. They just state a thing as fact and stop.

Shakaya: Hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.
Shakaya: No, hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.
Shakaya: No, hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.
Shakaya: No, hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.


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The sheer arrogance of this thread is funny, JIA trying to tell a Buddhist of many long years what Buddhism is about.


No. Just offering my two cents just as you do concerning Islam and Christianity.


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The fact that you disagree with him about what Christianity is about should be more than enough evidence that you didn't "think and believe" exactly the same as him.



While the Buddhist tells him what Christianity is about.

Actually go back and look at their interactions. There is very little difference between how the two of them argue. They just state a thing as fact and stop.

Shakaya: Hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.
Shakaya: No, hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.
Shakaya: No, hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.
Shakaya: No, hell is a state of mind.
JIA: No, hell is a place.


With all due respect Symmetric Chaos your post made me laugh, but not in a bad way.

It is true that Shakyamunison and I go back and forth.


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No. Just offering my two cents just as you do concerning Islam and Christianity.


Except the Islam/Christianity bit we're discussing in another thread isn't "my two cents", it's fact both religions and Judaism share the same God, with varying beliefs/interpretations though.

I've not told you "Islam is right and Christianity is wrong".


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The fact that you disagree with him about what Christianity is about should be more than enough evidence that you didn't "think and believe" exactly the same as him...


Understanding and agreeing are not the same thing.


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With all due respect Symmetric Chaos your post made me laugh, but not in a bad way.

It is true that Shakyamunison and I go back and forth.


Yes, we are friends. I enjoy talking to JIA. Even when he bugs me. big grin


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Yes, we are friends. I enjoy talking to JIA. Even when he bugs me. big grin


Me bug you?

Not possible.


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Except the Islam/Christianity bit we're discussing in another thread isn't "my two cents", it's fact both religions and Judaism share the same God, with varying beliefs/interpretations though.

I've not told you "Islam is right and Christianity is wrong".


The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is triune.

The god of the Quran is not triune.

The God of the Bible has begotten a Son.

The god of the Quran does not have a son.

The idea of begetting a son is monstrous to allah.

The God of the Bible sent His Son to die for the sins of the world in order to redeem fallen, sinful humanity, and bring us back to God.

The Holy Bible reveals that Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures.

The god of the Quran denies emphatically that Jesus Christ died .



I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the God of the Bible and the god of the Quran could not be and--are not--the same.


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Me bug you?

Not possible.


big grin


Ya, your right. big grin


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Ya, your right. big grin


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Actually I do. I used to think and believe just like he does.
yeah, me too.


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yeah, me too.


We are the song birds that have been set free. big grin


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It is not acceptable to have a belief where the alternative is punishment. That's how you train dogs, not develop people.
-paraphrased from a Taoist text


I agree, but I like what Lewis Black had to say about the OT.

Paraphrase:

His people needed this kind of treatment, because they were three hairs shy of being Baboons.

He said it better...


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It is not acceptable to have a belief where the alternative is punishment. That's how you train dogs, not develop people.
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Question...does the potter not have power over the clay?


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