Based on what? What character developments in Justice League or any other DCnU title suggest DCnU Batman and Superman are great friends and as cohesive a unit as they were pre-Flashpoint?
I named explicit artifacts which Thor can call upon as royalty. Not sure how thats being vague when "kryptonian tech" isn't? And yes, considering most of this stuff is in the armory and where the stuff can be accessed easily by those who can retrieve it, it wouldn't take a month to gather these things.
....yeah, Thor and Tony have since made up. Like literally years ago. You're behind on their current stance as friends/teammates.
He's always fighting it because the Armor is almost always being used by nefarious means (ie. Loki's manipulation). It's still a weapon, a major one, in the arsenal of Asgard. Thor's not above using amps and special weapons if he deems it necessary, either.
Panther, he probably has better tech than Stark, but all he did against his fancy ceramic stealth suit is exploit it's vents to gum up his works, and reprogram his artificial heart thanks to code he gathered...
So he more or less fought like Batman would have.
Bruce could easily get specs on Starks armor, given intelligence gathering is what a detective does, and find a simple weakness to exploit..
So we've established he has used this relics and whatnot before. Good.
Tony wouldn't have any issues, and seeing as he's helped rebuild Asgard and has been a strong ally of theirs (and as such granted more lenience as a mortal) to say nothing of the bond between he and Thor, really don't why the two of them wouldn't use the relics. Even barring the Destroyer Armor, they still have access to uru weapons and more mundane yet still highly powerful artifacts which, to date, I don't see either Bruce or Clark having a counter for.
Pretty sure Tony would investigate into both of them and given his seasoned experience, would want to look into a guy who'd likely remind him of Black Panther, whom he regards as a peer and equal and undoubtedly a threat if they were on opposite sides of the spectrum.
Tony's not above using every available resource and power he has to his advantage. Just look at the stuff he did while he was Director of SHIELD.
DCnU World's Finest just don't have the feats or the history to suggest them winning a prep war lasting 1 month. The only real arguments against Thor/Tony consist of assuming their relationship as friends/allies is shit (which isn't true), that Thor can't or won't access Asgard's armory (which isn't true), that gathering such things would take longer than a month (which isn't true), or if we're basically ignoring the whole DCnU versions of the characters to justify them winning.
I have no problem admitting that pre-Flashpoint versions could definitely win. But DCnU? Not really seeing it.
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Tony being a better engineer - which is a tangential field for Batman (and one in which he is still highly competitive, despite not spending nearly as much time in), but being better in virtually every other field, ranging from strategy, criminology to martial arts, makes Batman smarter than Tony "rich"?
Odd.
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Tech can be shut down. Supes is still faster and though they might not be able to "counter" Asgardian artifacts, whatever they might be. Kryptonian tech, weapons, ships, armor should still be sufficient enough. 1 Month at Superspeeds is an eternity to build up a defense and offense.
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Thor refusing to prep up because of pride isn't an odd argument. It's entirely within his character. He rarely even uses the full range of his powers against the likes of Hulk because of his pride, let alone using the overpowered relics of Asgard against anything less than a Skyfather level threat..
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