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abhilegend
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Racer casts his shadow across the whole creation as Genesis Box remakes the universe

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Jul 11th, 2013 08:35 PM

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zopzop
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^^
It's pretty clear BR stomps.

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Racer casts his shadow across the whole creation as Genesis Box remakes the universe

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Not canon.

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How is he a death abstract ?

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zopzop
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How is he a death abstract ?

I just posted the scan.

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Jul 11th, 2013 08:46 PM

Rage.Of.Olympus
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Has the Black Racer ever been in a fight? This is the only one I can recall and while he did slap away Cyborg, he was seriously hurt by his cannon as well:
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He's definitely far faster then Hela (Kept up with Wally in this issue until he was bfr'ed via Boom Tube). He also seems to have a higher function/responsibility but that isn't automatically equivalent to battle power. Hela's not a New God, so he can't automatically claim her soul.

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Zop posted a scan of him easily swatting Superman away.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Where?

But I just remembered him blasting Superman away:
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Still, hardly something that puts him above Hela. Especially since Clark wasn't 100% or anything IIRC.

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abhilegend
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He didn't even react to a full on punch from superman.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where?

But I just remembered him blasting Superman away:
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Still, hardly something that puts him above Hela. Especially since Clark wasn't 100% or anything IIRC.

The second scan is imperiex blasting superman btw. Superman wasn't blasted away from racer, he just bounced away from him after that blow.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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The second scan is imperiex blasting superman btw. Superman wasn't blasted away from racer, he just bounced away from him after that blow.

I swear it's the next consecutive scan from the comic.

What? Definitely looks like he was blasted away:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/162...116p03.jpg.html

There's a big explosion and shit.

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abhilegend
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I swear it's the next consecutive scan from the comic.

What? Definitely looks like he was blasted away:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/162...116p03.jpg.html

There's a big explosion and shit.

That is. The thing is that the apokolips scene is happening before the Racer scene. Superman was brought upon apokolips by darkseid which you see where parademons are carrying him, he gets in a fight with darkseid, hears a distress call from Steel and finds him dead on the moon. That's where the first page with the racer starts with superman pleading with racer.

The scar which was shown by that blast was explicitly stated to be caused by superman.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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That is. The thing is that the apokolips scene is happening before the Racer scene. Superman was brought upon apokolips by darkseid which you see where parademons are carrying him, he gets in a fight with darkseid, hears a distress call from Steel and finds him dead on the moon. That's where the first page with the racer starts with superman pleading with racer.

The scar which was shown by that blast was explicitly stated to be caused by superman.

Oh okay.

Hmm, it's not in this issue, do you have a scan? Has to be very clear cut to counter that art. The Black Racer is glowing/pulsing with energy as if he's the focal point as Superman seems to be thrown back violently by some kind of force. Did Superman punch a force field or something that caused a back lash? I find it hard to believe the Black Racer can no-sell a punch from him but whatever, at least it's not Thor.

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abhilegend
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Oh okay.

Hmm, it's not in this issue, do you have a scan? Has to be very clear cut to counter that art. The Black Racer is glowing/pulsing with energy as if he's the focal point as Superman seems to be thrown back violently by some kind of force. Did Superman punch a force field or something that caused a back lash? I find it hard to believe the Black Racer can no-sell a punch from him but whatever, at least it's not Thor.

Its in the same issue. Thor would've broken his hands bro.

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Its in the same issue. Thor would've broken his hands bro.

Nah... Thor would've shattered the moon and any surrounding planets nearby.

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abhilegend
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Nah... Thor would've shattered the moon and any surrounding planets nearby.

With mjolnir and several strikes?

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With mjolnir and several strikes?

And it was a shared feat with Gorr.

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Jul 11th, 2013 10:21 PM

celeyhyga17
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And it was a shared feat with Gorr.

I guess... If you consider stabbing and slicing viable ways to produce shockwaves.

Like I said b4, shared feat in that Gorr's face was the immovable object to Thor's unstoppable force (Mjolnir slam).

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zopzop
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I guess... If you consider stabbing and slicing viable ways to produce shockwaves.

Like I said b4, shared feat in that Gorr's face was the immovable object to Thor's unstoppable force (Mjolnir slam).

But it was still shared, that's the point. It wasn't like Gorr was just standing there allowing Thor to wail away on him, he was actively fighting back.

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Jul 11th, 2013 10:39 PM