Bane has no showings off force shield off of a nexus. He isn't even approaching Kyp's power, there is nothing to suggest his force abilities would do anything to Kyp
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Gonna go with bane. Kyps great with inanimate objects like the sun crusher, dovin basal, and freighter feats, where he can focus his power. Unfortunately against actual combatants or force users he just doesnt have the feats. Which is a shame because i feel like his character much like his force power has a lot of untapped potential.
ya, but i cant remember if there was any context to it though. Ill try to find the scene when i get home, but there were so many njo/vong books its a ***** to find specific scenes in that series.
He has feats like ragdolling Corran horn, manipulating torpedoes, and manipulating freighters. Whether or not he had to "focus" his power is irrelevant to the fact he is more powerful than Bane
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Ragdolling a force user > killing fodder guards, throwing tables, and breaking boxes and tents
Not to mention all of the other TK feats for Kyp which are superior to anything Bane has shown
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ya maybe not the best example since corran has no tk and if i recall, right after that kenth hamner ragdolled kyp for corran. Unless u were trying to show that all u need is kenth hamner level tk to ragdoll kyp. In which case well done.
Its quite relevent since he has no feats to show he can muster that much power without time to focus, and since he wont have that time here those feats are whats irrelevant.
And why is it relevent when say vitate needs time to focus his power but irrelevant for kyp?
And Bane has only destroy rocks, killed guards, and tents destroyed without a darkside nexus with his telekinesis, compared to someone who can manipulate a freighter and black holes.
There is obviously a huge power gap here in favor of Kyp.
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You made the point to "focus" power as if it makes a difference that it would matter in a general sense. Kyp is still vastly more powerful than Bane and even if he had to "focus" his power, it wouldn't matter because nothing Bane can do would bother him. So what if Kenth ragdolled Corran, Kenth still hasn't manipulated freighters or black holes or accomplished anything Kyp has. Nice false comparison though
Kyp's power is sufficient enough to ragdoll Bane at any point during a fight.
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I donl't think there's any valid point in denying that Kyp can ragdoll Bane. Kyp is just much more powerful in the force.
Kyp is also described by Luke as an expert swordman along with Katarn (take it as you like). Katarn who, while untrained, was able to defeat 7 Dark Jedi and Jerec through natural talent only.
Well similarly I don't think there's any valid point is suggesting that Kyp can ragdoll Bane. Kyp seriously isn't much more powerful than Bane nor is he more powerful at all. If we're playing that game I'll just suggest that Bane one-shots Kyp with lightning, since he has no feats of repelling lightning as powerful as Bane's. And since Bane has superior reaction and speed feats he attacks first.
Kyp being an expert duelist doesn't make him a threat to Bane.
Bane would need barrier feats or superior force feats (off nexus) to suggest he doesn't get dominated by the force. He has neither and Bane's lightning has been dodged so your claim that Bane's lightning would fry anyone is bogus.
Bane isn't faster than Kyp either.
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Can Bane actually be paired with someone he has a fair chance against? Kyp is way out of his league, and most of the users he gets put in with in threads are better than him too. In future threads you might want to use characters like Qui Gon Jin or Luminara Unduli, Bane has no business fighting with guys like Kyp
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Not necessarily. That feat is kind of unquantifiable, for various reasons. I don't consider it superior to Bane's best TK feats. Especially when his feats translate much smoother into combat situations.
And you didn't respond to my point about Bane's lightning. Should I assume you accept it then?