S_W_LeGenD
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It is amusing that some members assume that Yoda would defeat Revan easily but would find Darth Vader a challenging opponent.
Oct 20th, 2015 01:21 PM
S_W_LeGenD
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nah.
Yoda is not steamrolling someone who raw power is 80% of Palpatine's, and canonically one of the most skilled swordsman to ever live.
That 80% is a "maybe," a remark made by George Lucas to explain a point. I find it amusing that people have taken it at face-value.
Darth Vader isn't 80% of Darth Sidious in official literature. The gap is realistically bigger.
Oct 20th, 2015 01:25 PM
FreshestSlice
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Lulz. Who thinks Yoda will defeat Revan easily and posted in this thread? And your cherry picking is on overdrive.
Oct 20th, 2015 01:25 PM
S_W_LeGenD
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lulz. Who thinks Yoda will defeat Revan easily and posted in this thread? And your cherry picking is on overdrive.
You must not question my infinite wisdom. Your job is to nod in agreement, peasant.
Oct 20th, 2015 01:47 PM
FreshestSlice
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The SWTOR Brigade doesn't have to pretend I don't exist...
Oct 20th, 2015 01:52 PM
McP
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Yoda with small / moderate difficulty
Oct 20th, 2015 02:30 PM
Deronn Solo
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That 80% is a "maybe," a remark made by George Lucas to explain a point. I find it amusing that people have taken it at face-value.
Darth Vader isn't 80% of Darth Sidious in official literature. The gap is realistically bigger.
Nah, it wasn't a maybe. It was a direct statement made by the creator of the mythos--- sorry if I take his word over anyone esle, though. Not to mention, nothing actually contradicts it, as far as RAW power is concerned; unless, you mind explaining it to me why it does. I'm open minded - given the discussion - is worth it.
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Oct 20th, 2015 03:45 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rebel95
Yoda beats Vader with difficulty.
How many wins does Yoda get out of ten ?
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Oct 20th, 2015 03:48 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nah, it wasn't a maybe. It was a direct statement made by the creator of the mythos--- sorry if I take his word over anyone esle, though. Not to mention, nothing actually contradicts it, as far as RAW power is concerned; unless, you mind explaining it to me why it does. I'm open minded - given the discussion - is worth it.
Vader's TK might even be =/> Sidious's.
So whatever Power difference there is between the 2, it's likely all down to Sidious's superior speed/mobility in a Saber match up.
Of course Vader's arguably more even more Powerful than Yoda or Sidious given his Piloting Skills.
He's the no.1 Jedi/Sith in a Space Battle.
Oct 20th, 2015 04:03 PM
quanchi112
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Piloting skills have no bearing on a one on one saber fight. Quit going off topic to wank Vader.
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Oct 20th, 2015 04:04 PM
NewGuy01
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sinious
Its still pretty illogical tbh
What's illogical about that?
Oct 20th, 2015 04:36 PM
Sinious
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewGuy01
What's illogical about that? %80 hints that they are somewhat close and ROTJ Sidious vs Vader isn't a good fight lol
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Oct 20th, 2015 04:54 PM
FreshestSlice
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And why is that illogical, and why wouldn't it?
Oct 20th, 2015 05:04 PM
Sinious
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Yeah, I don't think I have to explain why Sidious outclasses Vader.
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Oct 20th, 2015 05:19 PM
FreshestSlice
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Indulge me. Or do you not have a reason why DE Luke can do something Vader can't even come close to?
Oct 20th, 2015 05:24 PM
Deronn Solo
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You people do know the difference between RAW power, RAW power, in conjucntion with vastly superior mastery of the Force, right? 'Cause that's what makes the gap between Vader and RotJ Sidious"big". Even then, I don't think Palpatine by RotJ, is someone capable of wrecking Vader to the point he'll put up no fight whatsoever. He'll go down, and go down HARD - but not like a some n00b *****, or the members of the Jedi B-team.
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Oct 20th, 2015 05:32 PM
|King Joker|
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Vader's Force abilities can buy him time, but ultimately he's completely outmatched in a 'saber duel, IMO.
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Oct 20th, 2015 05:36 PM
McP
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Vader's TK might even be =/> Sidious's.
Basing on...? Vader might have some nice-looking showings, but he literaly has no good showings against top-Force users (excluding perhaps TFU and TFU II). Or at least mid-Force users.
Oct 20th, 2015 07:48 PM
Deronn Solo
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Pavan has some nice, showing to be honest - he could me mid-tier and Vader wrecked him casually. And Luke suggested that Vader would have stomped him in the Force, had he not held back his power in CoPL. Sources have identified as Luke as one of the most powerful Jedi the galaxy has every known, at that point in time.
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Oct 20th, 2015 08:01 PM
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