So you, even before SoR came out, let alone SoR or Ziost or KOTFE, believed that Vitiate > DE Sidious was very possible but right now you think Plagueis > Valkorion can be a thing? Well, okay then.
I specifically used those words to make my point, buddy. DE Sidious is much higher than TPM Sidious and someone on DE Sids level shouldn't lose a majority to TPM Sidious if they lose at all.
Hmm, I think at the end of the novel it is said(or Sidious says) he surpassed him. Can't look it up now atm. There are also several sources that hint to them being really close as of TPM though. Kind of a grey area.
After Plagueis dies the narrator notes there is a gravitic shift in the force towards Palpatine in the prologue of the novel.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Disintegrating a dozen armored fighters while massively wounded, punching through armored torso's, moving faster than a droids perception, defeating a superior martial combatant through his force connection, midichlorian manipulation. I dunno, read the respect thread.
One could certainly make the argument. I'm not dismissing the possibility as retarded. That's for the unimaginative.
Vitiate does this in every single fight he's ever been part of, against much more impressive teams/foes.
Impressive in terms of knowledge/discovery/mastery, but hardly indicative of his strength in the force, especially compared to someone like Valkorion.
Plagueis has his share of very, very impressive feats, no doubt, but Valkorion's blow his so far out of the water, it's not even comparable. I give Plagueis the benefit of the doubt certainly, he's in my top 5 or 3 Sith. But on showings alone, there's no way that what he's done compares to Valkorion.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
I meant in lightsaber combat. Venamis was a better duelist than him yet Plagueis still managed to beat him because he's just that good.
What if Plagueis used it to kill him though? It's not like Vitiate has a response to that.
I'm not saying that Plaguies' force feats are as good as Vitiates, just that I can see a plausible scenario for him winning. Plagueis attacks Vitiate with his saber. Sure, Vitiate can block it, but with Plagueis' monster-strength and speed it wouldn't exactly be easy. And unlike Arcann, Plagueis isn't gonna get pimp-slapped. With his comparable level of power, Valkorion would need a lengthy force battle to batter Plagueis into submission, all which the latter is battering him into submission as well. Eventually Plagueis just tanks and spanks him.
If Plagueis is in your top 3 or 5 then I don't see why you think theres such a gap between them that Plagueis gets owned. That's ****in' retarded bro.
Oct 21st, 2015 08:17 PM
