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Originally posted by Q99
Yes, it's true, and the answer is, it's hard to say since he made the promise before the ACA's final form.


But to go into it further on what happened, you could keep your plans, unless the 'plan' turned out to be a piece-of-crap not-really-plan that'd screw you over if you ever got really sick or hurt and leave you millions in debt. You can keep your doctor unless they were only attached to such a plan (which is not overly common but does happen) or the doctor decided to pull out for whatever reason. The vast majority of cases, plans and doctors were kept, speaking in generality, most people were able to keep both.

Also, even if it's a lie? It's a lie upward.



Are you talking about individual plans that were held by people that didn't offer maternity or are you trying to site mini-medical plans?

Because with as many times as Obama had to explain his plan he could have easily broadened his explanation but was advised to not explain policy just bullet points. Hence why even Time magazine went after obama and gruber as liars.

Many of the co-ops are in death spirals, the ACA is terrible.

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The analysis includes all plans being sold in the 37 states that will continue to rely on the federal exchange next year. The data, based on the price of plans’ monthly premiums, does not take into account the cost to consumers of insurance deductibles and co-payments. Both tend to be more expensive in ACA plans than in the health insurance typically available through employers’ health benefits.



My money is on the idea that the ACA has increased the average and median American's medical costs and bullshit statistics that say "market price plans have even decreased this year! Derpy dooo!" are very misleading.


Why is no real research ever done for these types of things? Is there not a super strong incentive to measure the actual out of pockets costs for medical care (which includes insurance premiums)? I mean, clearly, there is. You'd think the GOP would want to prove how poorly the ACA has helped the Americans they claim it was for. Let's not forget that the ACA should have been a universal healthcare solution (and I think Rick Perry even supported the idea of a universal healthcare solution a la expanding medicare/medicaid so it is not as though the major players in the GOP oppose a universal option).




For those Americans that it has helped, financially: great!!!! Amazing. Terrific! For those which it has harmed, financially (which I think is a majority), that's too bad.




TI is correct: we needed healthcare and insurance reform, first, before we got something like ACA. Some people say ACA is a stepping stone to universal coverage. I hope so.


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ACA is a failure and Obama is a failure.


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Speaking of health care this is what I specifically use, it is called CountyCare.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/arti...ff-life-support

I've paid literally zero.
Oh Lordy! You and that didactic memory!

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These fcking ACA costs, man TI is da man


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You literally said:

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Speaking of health care this is what I specifically use, it is called CountyCare.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/arti...ff-life-support

I've paid literally zero.


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"Thanks Obama"


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"Thanks Obama"


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Guys, the fact that no one is heaping praises on me for how right I was, years ago, is making me upset. How dare you not pat me on the back.


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Guys, the fact that no one is heaping praises on me for how right I was, years ago, is making me upset. How dare you not pat me on the back.


Don’t you own an Asian for that

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PUBLIC HEALTHCARE IS SOCIALISM

PAYING YOUR GOVERNMENT IN TAXES THAT GO TO ANYTHING ELSE THAN PRIVATE CORPORATIONS IS SOCIALISM

TAXES ARE MEANT ONLY TO SUPPORT PRIVATE PRISONS AND ARMS DEALS WITH MIDDLE EAST

AMERICA WAKE UP

COMMUNISM IS DESTROYING YOU

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EVERYTHING WAS TYPED ONLY HOLDING SHIFT BUTTON

THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN FEEL YOUR ANGER AT THE COMMUNISTS VENTING AS YOU TYPE, CAPSLOCK DOESNT PROVIDE THE RELEASE

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CAPSLOCK DOESNT PROVIDE THE RELEASE


Back room strip club or maybe just a handy

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You literally said:


Ikr!


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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
"You can keep your doctor, and your plan!"

laughing out loud


I also said this


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Don’t you own an Asian for that


Oddly, she did pat me on that back just a few minutes ago. It would have been shortly after your post, too.



What's going on, here?


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