Superman didn't tank Maxima's mind warping powers in the Day of the Krypton Man story arc. You find out that the Eradicator was reforming Clark's mind into a cold Kryptonian matrix as the story goes on.
Superman's behavior grows more and more cold, calculating, and dickish as the story goes on. For example, he almost misses Lana Lang's birthday, and doesn't reciprocate any of her warmth when she is excited to see him finally show up. Instead, Lana Lang remarks that she feels like an icky girl in the third grade after he makes her hobble across the living room floor in a cast and kiss him to no effect.
Maxima recognized this change to Superman's demeanor during their encounter. She sensed that there was a presence in Superman's mind overriding her mental powers that allowed him to resist her. To put an even finer point on it, her narrating even mentions how the fire that was once lurking in him had been *eradicated* and how she won't be able to find a mate in so cold a knave anymore.
We all know [since we've read the story] that Eradicator was in Superman's mind. But that doesn't change the physical tanking of Maxima's TK. Eradicator didn't change Superman's durability.
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Actually, you're the one building a strawman in this thread when you asked "How much do you want to bet that you can't prove that Superman's durability was amped when he took her?" This is total sophistry on your part.
There's a contingent in here acknowledging that there was a presence in Superman protecting him from Maxima's powers. What's the solution around this apparently? When Maxima finally lashes out, in reality it's the antithesis of what Superman calls a senseless reaction. That's because she's deliberately filtering out all other power frequencies in her blasts except for telekinesis.
Superman may dare Maxima to unleash all of her power on him, but nah, dishing out finely tuned beams for Superman's durability to handle no problem is just the paradox that Maxima enjoys. The threshold of Maxima making a statement that she's refraining from dealing Orion-punking damage doesn't exist, but also, the coinciding Eradicator costume reveal is surprisingly like Swiss cheese.
Maxima.did, indeed, punk Orion, who is consistantly written as => Superman.
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Nearly knocked him out with a controlled burst of Astro Force in the Son of Darkseid story.
DID knock him out in Death of the New Gods and that Classified story (The one everyone uses)
Held his own in h2h in same.
Was the only hero who held his own in King of the World.
For starters.
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1). Byrne-era Superman. The weakest Superman in 70 years.
2). Orion needed Lightray's help to recover from Superman's attack: http://s738.photobucket.com/user/Ph...Orion2.jpg.html
3). That was a brainwashed Superman, whose power is explicitly dependent on his mind.
4). He didn't even know what powers he had, thinking himself the son of Darkseid, and resorted to bullrushing Orion. His heat vision actually can match the Astro-Force: http://s1093.photobucket.com/user/K...oforce.jpg.html
5). Superman wasn't knocked out, only dazed, and literally in the next panel threw a pilar into Orion, knocking him down. http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...manvsOrion4.jpg
Good job showing that a brainwashed, underpowered, unaware Superman can match Orion.
Are you this disingenuous that you leave out context?
Jesus Christ, have some integrity.
Darkseid explicitly singled out Superman as his physical rival, while they were fighting, and attributing ferocity to Orion.
Holding his own is now superiority to Superman? Isn't that what you're trying to prove? And you're referring to the same story where Orion had to sucker punch him with the astro force? Where they had to pull out kryptonite to beat him? Are you sure you're arguing for Orion?
Superman has outperformed him:
-> against Kalibak [who is explicitly Orion's physical equal], while Superman rofloverpowers him.
-> against Darkseid, multiple times. (http://s738.photobucket.com/user/Ph...aBeams.jpg.html)
-> against DD Wars Doomsday [even with J'onn he couldn't fight DD Wars for more than a few moments]
-> against Infinite Man
-> against White Martian [poor Orion needed to get himself on fire, even with backup, to get the advantage]
-> Against Mantis
etc.
The showing referenced in this thread [King of the World] is better suited to show Orion > rest of the Justice League [given he was portrayed as their big gun, with Diana/J'onn/Kyle there], instead of trying to make an imaginary Orion > Superman.
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