__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
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I mean, honestly, this is no greater a source than, for example, the blurb on the Darth Plagueis novel. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that a novel stated to be the most important published Star Wars material to date, is on a vastly higher level of authenticity than any Wizards article. Yet this novel wasn't just maintained by someone like Leland Chee, it went through the desk of none other than George Lucas before the stamp of approval. Yet Chee insists such statements are subjective in nature.
Now unless you want to go about arguing that a Wizards supplement has any form of greater viability to stand on its own two feet than the most carefully crafted work in all of Star Wars Expanded Universe history, then I imagine my point here is crystal clear.
More importantly, being published under a LucasFilm Ltd. banner does nothing to ascertain a level of infallibility on the point of those who wrote it. I say this because, if we're taking stuff such as that into account, one must come to the conclusion that a quote from the likes of Tom Veitch, or that a statement in Jedi Academy depicting Kun as a Sidious tier threat, is of just as great an import as anything Cory wrote in his web supplement.
Though instead of riding the fences of what is or isn't reliable in a medium that has long since been kicked to the curb, I'd simply remind people of this quote:
This is a quote in 2008 stating that Exar Kun was once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith. Now this doesn't mean that he was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith up until he died, it means he was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith up until a point where another Dark Lord surpassed him in power.
Who also makes an appearance in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia? You guessed it, Darth Malak. Malak on the Star Forge is directly referenced too. The only Sith in that book definitively placed over Kun is Sheev. Almost seems like that was a direct ratification of the quote naming Kun GOAT among Sith. Yet literally only Sheev is placed above him in said retcon.
Don't even get me started on how Traya in the Trayus Core factors in with all of this.
Malak is not far more powerful than Exar Kun.
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Yeah, no. The statement was from 2004 at best. TCSWE clearly doesn't place Malak above Exar Kun, and does in fact have only Sidious above Exar Kun.
Furthermore, we have the fact that Malachor V is demonstratably even stronger than the Star Forge, specifically the Trayus Core. Traya is quite evidently much more powerful than Malak. Yet we know Traya is definitively less powerful than the more prominent ancient Sith. All of whom are canonically inferior to Exar Kun, and arguably Marka Ragnos.
I'd also argue that the quote isn't exactly definitive in it's wording. Everybody seems to entertain the idea that when Muur's claimed to have powers that outshined Krayt's; it refers to techniques. This quote could quite possibly refer to the powers Malak and Revan uncovered, such as draining techniques and abilities naturally harnessed upon mastery of the Star Forge.
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TBH; Exar Kun is more powerful than Mace Windu, and might contend with the Jedi Master on his terms as in utilize his Sith Sorcery abilities to defeat his opponent.
Unless Kun fight Windu on the latter's terms, I am not sure how Windu would prevail.
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Spirit-rending lightning, corrupting his lightsaber, incinerating him from the inside out. All the things he taught Kyp, essentially. It's also pretty clear he has many other techniques. Let's not start with Force blasts.
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So, we disregard most of Palpatine's accolades, then?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Mar 14th, 2018 11:45 PM
Which, according to Wizards of the Coast, was some 40 years later.
