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Don't listen to him, Coop. Carver doesn't read comics, he poach's respect thread scans.


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None of those guys did anything close to Post Crisis Superman destroying the moon with a single punch to Black Racer's face. And in the Doomsday fight, Supes only took him to Venus. I don't recall him destroying anything except Doomsday.

Also, travel speed isn't the same as reaction time. As far as combat speed goes, Rebirth>Post Crisis>>>New 52

I'm talking about this one.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...5394-moon+1.jpg

And no, new 52 Superman was just as fast in flying as he was in combat.


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I'm talking about this one.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...5394-moon+1.jpg

And no, new 52 Superman was just as fast in flying as he was in combat.


isnt that made of cheese


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That's the biggest moon I have ever saw.


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Originally posted by XLR87T3
Looks pretty destroyed to me

https://tinyurl.com/ybyqp9c7

Even if you only count half of it, it's still more than what people say New 52 Superman is capable of


Not to me. Damaged, yes, but not destroyed.


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isnt that made of cheese

Yes


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What are you thinking about? New 52 Superman was destroying moons by flying Doomsday through it, tanking hits from beings even stronger than him unlike post crisis Superman and was fast enough to cross entire universe in 60 days without any need to breathe. He was bronze age Superman level in power.


Literal space cheese.

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Re: Post Crisis Superman vs Rebirth & New 52 Superman

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Round 1: He fights New 52 Superman
Round 2: He fights Rebirth Superman, and the latter only uses feats from Rebirth (no scaling from Post Crisis)
There's no such thing as scaling, since they're the same person. It's like saying Captain America scales from the 90s.

As for the question, feat-wise
- in terms of speed, Rebirth would make the Post-Crisis a literal statue.
- in terms of strength, New 52 is consistently much stronger than Post-Crisis.

So one of them blitzes, while the other outmuscles.


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There's no such thing as scaling, since they're the same person. It's like saying Captain America scales from the 90s.

As for the question, feat-wise
- in terms of speed, Rebirth would make the Post-Crisis a literal statue.
- in terms of strength, New 52 is consistently much stronger than Post-Crisis.

So one of them blitzes, while the other outmuscles.
What I meant was that Rebirth only uses feats from Rebirth, not feats from the 90s. For example, people always site the durability feat of him getting nearly killed by a steamroller, and for speed there's the moon reconstruction feat

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Yes
How is destroying cheese equivalent to destroying moons like Post Crisis Supes has done?

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Where did he get almost killed by a steamroller?


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How is destroying cheese equivalent to destroying moons like Post Crisis Supes has done?

Superman destroying moons, pushing Warworld in phantom zone, benching earth weight, moving Brainiac spaceship within 4 years makes his average far higher than post crisis Superman. It's not even close TBH.


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Where did he get almost killed by a steamroller?
Found it, but it seems like he tanked it. Still embarrassing though: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/u...-spoilers-3.jpg

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Superman destroying moons, pushing Warworld in phantom zone, benching earth weight, moving Brainiac spaceship within 4 years makes his average far higher than post crisis Superman. It's not even close TBH.
That was cheese, he never destroyed an actual moon, and lifting strength isn't gonna help in a fight when 90% of the time they're punching.

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Found it, but it seems like he tanked it. Still embarrassing though: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/u...-spoilers-3.jpg

That was cheese, he never destroyed an actual moon, and lifting strength isn't gonna help in a fight when 90% of the time they're punching.

So a scene where Superman is literally unharmed and which is more of a funny scene than anything power related is supposed to be embarrassing? You comicvine lot are so easy to impress.

The moon was made of cheese, it's still a moon. Strength is strength, trying to differentiate it in punching/lifting is foolish. Comics don't work that way. It's not RPG.


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The moon was made of cheese, it's still a moon.


OMG!!!


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I wonder if I can destroy a house made of cheese with my hands and if so would I be deemed as the strongest man in the world.


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Carver....cheezus......

I mean, even when I agree with the overall point you make, you still have a silly way of making it lol.

You could've argued that rock is way harder than cheese, for example. Or that rock is tougher.

But no. Now abhi will be able to point out that it's still a whole moon made of cheese, and that it's still a good feat. Not to mention, that his original post is still technically correct - Superman destroyed a moon in his fight with DD.


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I wonder if I can destroy a house made of cheese with my hands and if so would I be deemed as the strongest man in the world.

laughing out loud

You're an idiot.


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I wonder if I can destroy a house made of cheese with my hands and if so would I be deemed as the strongest man in the world.
That actually makes me wonder how strong cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeze would be in that format. If it's all carved out of one block of cheddar for example, I don't think it would be too strong. But if you actually structured it like a stickframed house with cheese joists, and cheese trusses, and seperate pieces of cheese roof? And what are we using for the plywood or osb? Thin parm sheets?

How strong are cheese wheels for instance? They seem like they'd be somewhat durable, but maybe not to a punch, and if followed the rules of a house, you wouldn't get anything thicker/denser than that.

Interesting. This is turning out to be a gouda thread


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