Okay, so can we assume that the Upside Down Man is Hecate's equal? Can we also assume that Eclipso is superior to both? Or what did that mean? Are we on the same page?
Even-though, Upside Down Man is stated to be Hecate's direct opposite, imo he's more powerful. I think he was growing more powerful and she BFRd him out of fear.
Eclipso is to counter her and possibly exceed her.
If i had to go, i would go wiht Upside Down man, Eclipso and then Hecate..
Really? I read it, and what I understood was that Eclipso's power eclipsed Hecate's power, which came off to me as if his power was far greater than hers. Now because UDM is her opposite I took it as he was her equal, which is reinforced by him being the Yang to Hecate's Yin. Eclipso was later created by dark forces to supersede her power. UDM according to on panel citation, should be Hecate's counter balance, or full equivalent.
TOBA Hulk possesses the infinite power of the Gammaverse. He seems to have killed, or destroyed everything in Marvel cosmology, unless I'm mistaken? Eating Galactus or the entity that turned Galan into Galactus shows that he has the ability to consume Abstracts. He also has the ability to kill true immortals like Mr. Immortal, and Franklin who is a reality manipulator. At the very end of the book, Bruce Banner questioned whether or not TOBA killed the Hulk, and felt as if he himself was somehow being eaten by this entity, or Devil Hulk as he called out to Joe who does not answer.
If TOBA killed every being in Marvel cosmology, that within itself is beyond words.
How are they alternate reality beings when it was 616 Hulk that killed them? The art direction failed. It's not as if Dale Keown, or Ed McGuiness is sketching the Immortal Hulk. So bones are what we get.
↑From my understanding, UDM was the original opposite of Hecate, But when she sealed up UDM that was her dark mirror(You can see she isolating him from the second link I posted), Yin and yang balance needs to be restored, So there comes to eclipso as her opposite(The second scan/link I posted drawing eclipso above hecate, And later in the third scan/link Circe stated when she binds to eclipso powers, She won't just be goddess of magic, She will be magic itself, Which was the exactly what Hecate is)↑
Did it state that it was an alternate future? I see it as a possible future for 616, which mean that it will be the 616 Galactus, Franklin, and every other being within the 616 reality. If it did not make mention of another timeline it is the same reality as the current timeline that the Immortal Hulk is from. We are seeing the progressoon take place in every IH book, we even got a glimpse of the Devil Hulk in last months issue. Not sure why you're drawing these conclusions?
You'd better read it again. It specifically states that Eclipso's power eclipses Hecate's power. I'm not the only one that comprehended it that way. You're absolutely wrong, but if you are right then that means that DC is wrong. They wrote it.
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Oct 29th, 2019 03:57 AM
that’s my logic in the other thread but this is about UDM vs TOBA who I think is equivalents to GEB.
