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I assume you mean Gothmog from RoTK, the first Gothmog was a Balrog the Lord of The Balrogs to be exact.
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Feb 27th, 2004 05:33 PM
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Probably if this is a thread about orcs
Gothmog was cool, but I liked him better in the book
(though the best Gothmog is still the son of morgoth )
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Feb 27th, 2004 05:34 PM
Thorondor
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yup i agree lol, balrogs are well cool apart from them killing Feanor...i wasn't to pleased at that
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Feb 27th, 2004 05:35 PM
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lol indeed Orcs nearly never killed anybody important... (only the dwarf killers were really named few of the others)
but balrogs do Gothmog for example killed Feanor, Fingon, Ecthelion... imprisoned Hśrin......
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Feb 27th, 2004 06:37 PM
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killed gandalf...but he cheated and came back......
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Feb 27th, 2004 06:39 PM
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but that wasnt Gothmog was he
and - some other stupid nameless Balrog killed Glorfindel ARGH
Whom did the White Balrog (how was his name again... erm... Lungorthin?) kill?
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Feb 27th, 2004 06:43 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Maikahyandowen
Exa has spoken! end of argument.
now, back to Grothmog being ugly.....
And I don't get any recognition? I see how you are, I'll make a note of that
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Feb 27th, 2004 08:43 PM
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Yeah, most probably that, or perhaps also some of the later Light Elves when they lived next to Cuiviénen in the millenia before Orome brought them to the west.
Maybe some are also Light or at least Grey Elves - from Beleriand in Morgoth's dungeons (whence Flinding escaped),
the Kaukareldar, or Tolkien also sometimes suggests Men as the origin of orcs (though he says differently in LoTR)
I thought that the elves of which Orome brought to the west were the ones who wondered off themselves and were captured by melkors servants and dark spirits and formed into Orcs
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Feb 28th, 2004 02:20 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Discos
I thought that the elves of which Orome brought to the west were the ones who wondered off themselves and were captured by melkors servants and dark spirits and formed into Orcs
huh? what? *confuzzled* what dyou mean?
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Feb 28th, 2004 03:37 PM
Maikahyandowen
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orcs never killed anyone important?! Orcs killed Isildur and Aragorn's dad.
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Feb 28th, 2004 06:37 PM
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hmmm good point
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Feb 28th, 2004 06:40 PM
Maikahyandowen
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Feb 28th, 2004 06:45 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Maikahyandowen
orcs never killed anyone important?! Orcs killed Isildur and Aragorn's dad.
I mean orcs who are known as individuals... they mainly killed other individually known orcs
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Feb 28th, 2004 06:49 PM
Maikahyandowen
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ah. i see. dont' mind me! i'm just here for the food!
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Feb 28th, 2004 06:51 PM
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ok lol
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Feb 28th, 2004 06:58 PM
Maikahyandowen
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so... back to the orcs!!
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Feb 28th, 2004 07:03 PM
Thorondor
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Uglśk was my favourite orc
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Feb 28th, 2004 07:05 PM
Exabyte
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The one I hated was Lurtz... he was stupid, didnt have a cool name, was invented, and, well, didnt like him uglśk was far better
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Feb 28th, 2004 07:07 PM
Thorondor
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yea i agree
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Feb 28th, 2004 07:09 PM
Exabyte
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... but in the film I liked the Moria snaga ones better... they were cool...
Fav orcs are in first age though like the one who killed Azaghal, what was his name again...
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