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Ultimate Cap is a lot better
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SnakeEyes
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i think that aunt may would kick ass..........


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I hate Cap America, and I hated Ultimate Cap America *RIGHT UNTIL* he broke Fury's nose. That made me smile.


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so u do not hate Ult. cap anymore? good!
we need more fans of the ultimate marvel universe


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Ultimates is one of the best ideas marvel has had in a while.

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I finally picked up a few issues of The Ultimates, with Ult. Captain America, and it's true, he's way better than regular ol' Cap. but I still hate him.


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hey, as long as DD holds his mantle as the ultimate martial arts badass of marvel, i'm fine


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Well he never did so its ok. I think you thinking about Wolverine.

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Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I finally picked up a few issues of The Ultimates, with Ult. Captain America, and it's true, he's way better than regular ol' Cap. but I still hate him.


which issues did u get? and y do u still hate him?


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I got the first TPB volume(issues 1-6), and I got the Ultimate War. He just seems like a hypocrite. he was preaching against superhumans and super soldiers, while he himself IS one. wtf mate?

I do like Ultimate Thor better than regular Thor, and regular Thor kicked major ass, so that's saying something.


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what do u mean against super humans?


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Sorry, no offense, but in my book Ultimate Cap is just gun-toting hero number 5147.

Making a classic hero look tougher just by giving him some weapons and leaving the "I don't fight a wounded person and I respect everybody"-attitude at home, is a very cheap way for creating a "new" hero.

The real Cap didn't hide behind guns, he confronted you with his shield and his fists only. I'm not a fan, but I respect him, in a way.

Pulling a trigger, well, everybody can do that (sadly enough).


People seem to forget that Cap used to fight in a world war and is in fact a soldier. Sure he is stronger, more agile, faster and has a shield but he is still in the end a soldier. I find it a bit ridiculus to say that he should not carry a gun or kill anyone since that is the essence of what it is to be a soldier. That is why I find the Ultimate Cap a lot more realistic (as realistic as a comic character can be wink ).

I could never get into the old Cap but the Ultimate Cap is a lot more palitable....

I also think that the fact they did not bother with the whole Stark/Ironman secreat identity was a good choice. In fact I like all the Ultimates character reinvention, it has got me interested in characters I would not give a second glance in the main universe...

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I AGREE!


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Sorry didn't have time to read most of the earlier posts, just came to say First Cap I never much cared for (like superman) but the Cap in Ulti is a much more realistic or easier to relate to character.

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another wise opinion


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I really hate Ult. Cap, for a lot of reasons, but mainly, he has no honor.


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says who?


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Avengers shouldn't use guns. That would be too easy.


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ummm, care to elaborate/clarify?
do the guns they use kill any enemy really easily.....hmmm, NO!
so why would it be too easy?


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quote:
Originally posted by Evangel94
Avengers shouldn't use guns. That would be too easy.


The Ultimates are a government funded strike force that have to deal with Mutants and Alien invasion/subversion/infestation so of course they are going to use some kind of weapon... The thing I liked about the Ultimates is that they are not on thier own and that they are backed by "normal" soldiers and support.... It is not like the Avengers where it is always only those with super powers that actually do all the fighting/intel/research. It is little things like these that make the Ultimates much more interesting and realistic. As for Cap using guns, can people not understand the fact that he is a soldier. People expect him to be this non lethal guy, now what kind of a soldier is that. Cap/Wolverine/Punisher were all soldiers at one time or another, in fact Cap and Wolverine used to go on the same missions, so I don't see why Cap can't be as deadly as the rest of them... It makes sence that he should use a gun, after all sometimes a shield is just not enough, and you need something more lethal.

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i agree


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