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Zeal Ex Nihilo
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and what is a "perfect world", raz?

Read Brave New World. It's the closest thing to a utopia that could ever be achieved.

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There are lots of perfect worlds. The only thing bad about them is that they are all imaginary.

If the world was perfect, there would be no sin in it, so anybody here who has ever done anything wrong would not exist in it.

Dec 3rd, 2004 09:26 AM

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Re: Re: Is probability subjective?

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see, probability isn't exact. it's just a numberical value, based on what we know. if we knew everything, then every event could be predicted, and every event would have a value of 1 or 0.

since we don't know everything, we must use the given data to assess a value between 0 and 1

That's exactly what I meant. This person just expressed it better. I don't think anyone can refute this, can they?

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Originally posted by eleveninches
There are lots of perfect worlds. The only thing bad about them is that they are all imaginary.

If the world was perfect, there would be no sin in it, so anybody here who has ever done anything wrong would not exist in it.

I believe you are wrong.... because if the perfect world is without sin.. then the people there are stupid...don't you think??? people can't learn at all...think before you post next time.....

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People that life in a "perfect" world don'T have to sin. Although again as in brave new world people should have the right to sin. This is all theoretical though a perfect world is not possible, and if you look at Nova Atlantis or Utopia you see that the idea of a perfect world changes too.

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Re: Is probability subjective?

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Originally posted by DarkAge
I think it is. I don't believe there is any way the chance of something happening can be expressed as a number. In a world of infinite variables, how can events be reduced to something as primitive as numbers?

umm..no. you are quite wrong.
first of all...'infinite' itself is a concept. an 'infinit' ammount of variables does not exist. however large, it will ALWAYS stop somewhere. based on that, you can ALWAYS express a probability in number...a percentage, that's what it is. a fraction: the favorable cases of an event divided by the possible cases of the event, equals the probability of that event.

you learn this in school

Dec 26th, 2004 08:02 PM

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School is stupid.

Dec 28th, 2004 04:23 AM

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no...you are, without it

Dec 28th, 2004 09:49 AM

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Well Dexx you are PROBABLY right there is an ending amount of variables but if we don't know all the variables, and we probably don't, it is (IMO) impossible to give a numeric probability that is a 100% correct.

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