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Is Cloning good or bad?
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yerssot
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tell that to them

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I think cloning can be seen through so many filters. Cloning cannot be defined by one example alone.

I will let God, my immune system, and my own anatomy tell me when my time is up. I don't need science to extend my life. The will of the mind will also keep me healthy.


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i have no problem with cloning organs or body parts, but an entire whole human being i wouldn't agree with. i just believe to copy a person like that is wrong.


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I think cloning can be seen through so many filters. Cloning cannot be defined by one example alone.

I will let God, my immune system, and my own anatomy tell me when my time is up. I don't need science to extend my life. The will of the mind will also keep me healthy.


Without science the human lifespan would be significantly shorter than it is today. Every time you take medicine to cure an illness science is extending your life. Why not try to extend it more?

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I could care less. They can clone whatever they want. Hell, I wish they'd clone me some hot bitches.


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Wouldn't we be a lot better off if I were cloned in the manner Jango Fett was in Attack of the Clones? Pity the 'ego' smilie is defunct.


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I could care less. They can clone whatever they want. Hell, I wish they'd clone me some hot bitches.

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That would be scary shaber!lol!JM


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In Illinois they just voted down some state resolution (it lost by like 2 votes) that would allow state funding for stem-cell research...erm


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Do we really wanna double a bulk of Earth's population?

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I still don't quite see the argument behind if we were to get to the stage where humans could be correctly cloned it would be bad because they wouldn't have souls. How could they not? Unless one thinks clones would be like that Sixth Day movie a clone would end up being a distinct individual. Sure, our "soul" is what we are, our personality and so forth, but our personalty develops, grows and is shaped by our life, a clone would be the same. It may have the same genes, but its mind would be distinct. It would not have had our parents, it would not have had our friends, it would be being created in a different world to the one we were born into. I think it would have just as much a "soul" as the rest of us. Unless you could clone memories, which considering the brain is barely understood now, is unlikely.


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i dont want anyone that looks like me or acts like me in this world - cloning is bad

but if they can clone kidneys, livers, hearts, eye balls, whatever to help save people then thats good! -

but not an entire person


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It is theoretically possible to selectively clone organs with out needing to clone a whole body to harvest them from (which ultimately would be quite illegal, a bit like stealing someone kidneys)


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but there are organ donors--- and who is to say they (??) cant make some kind of contaier that can "harvest" organs - just like a human -


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If they clone individual organs, that is good, as it will save lives.
However, it is bad to clone just to make copies of people, as this will prevent natural evolution. Humans are not perfect, so why bother to make an exact copy of an imperfect human.

Genetic engineering, however, is something entirely different. When they have fullly harnessed genetic engineering, that will be good, but until then.

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Technically humanity, in terms of evolution, has slowed down, as we have put our selves above natural selection, being "imperfect" in human society is not a death sentence for ones genes. Likewise there are almost, almost, natural forms of cloning, that of asexual reproduction, which works well for some species with limited long term evolutionary problems.


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Cloning is the future. The answers to so many of our problems will come from stem-cell research and cloning. To deny that is to stick your head in the sand. You can ban it here in America all you want, but some other country will figure it all out, and they will be the new super power some day.


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Technically humanity, in terms of evolution, has slowed down, as we have put our selves above natural selection, being "imperfect" in human society is not a death sentence for ones genes. Likewise there are almost, almost, natural forms of cloning, that of asexual reproduction, which works well for some species with limited long term evolutionary problems.


This is true, we as a species have removed ourselves from nature to the extent that biology no longer shapes us, we shape the world around our biology.


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Exactly, evolution is of secondary importance to us, whereas in the normal animal kingdom every generation plays a part sometimes, we as humans have managed to avoid it, we are, in a fashion, heading to unchanging states. True, as medical science imrpoves we remove diseases and the impact of illness, which only adds to the way we don't evolve to meet risks and meet the situation, we invent our way out.


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